Love and the War Over Contraception

A belated happy Valentines day to all our readers. How fitting that the debate over contraception erupted just as we were approaching the week of the holiday of love?

This story first entered the mainstream about two weeks ago, within a week Obama had announced a “compromise.” Some of the smartest talking heads were left confused as to why Obama had chosen to announce the move in the way they did. Republican’s reaction to this story have generally boiled down to claiming that this move was Obama continuing a war on religion.   No matter your opinion on the issue of the federal government respecting a Catholic claim of “conscience clause” violation, some of the rhetoric used has been without shame.

On “This Week” Mitch McConnell did, as expected, an tremendous job at explicitly stating the rhetoric which is generally only implicitly referenced by his like because of how indefensible it is.

He said, “the government dosn’t get to decide what religious people what their religious beliefs are, they get to decide that…this is about the free exercise of religion.” Somehow, for McConnell, a religious organization paying an insurance for contraceptives for its employees is equal to the government dictating religious beliefs. This kind of rhetoric begs the question – what he would say about a theocracy that actually dictates religious beliefs? Mr. McConnell’s willingness to be so loose in his portrayal of this issue is a perfect example of how legitimate discussions often devolve into zealotry and mud slinging. I suspect Mr. McConnell is making this claim because he knows that if the debate is about contraception he will lose, but if it is about religious freedom he can win it.

On the other hand, those lamenting this as what you get when you have a national healthcare system actually have a case to make. Indeed, national standards in health care mean precisely that everyone’s health care coverage will be in some way standardized. This means a base line that not everyone will agree with. Where that baseline should be is definitely up for debate, and whether or not we should even have that baseline is an important budgetary and moral discussion.

However, notion that there exists a widely acknoledged constitutional “conscience clause” principal is patently false. During the Bush administration, laws were passed that specifically allowed for conscience clause like benefits for Catholic institutions. These laws would have been unnecessary if such a right existed in our constitution. But, even the republicans know, there is no constitutional right not to follow federal law because you have a religious or moral objection to it. This kind of provision is only done on a case by case basis because as a potential constitutional principal it is horribly problematic. That, and the small fact that it is simply NOT within the constitution.

 

Comments

  1. JimC146 says:

    That, and the small fact that it is simply NOT within the constitution.

    The irony of this statement is simply beautiful. Peradventure you can figure that out.

    Technically, you’re correct. It is however in the Amendments to the Constitution. But religious freedom doesn’t allow for religious rule or law to be superior to civil law.

    Coming as this does from an acknowledged leader of the advocates of the measure, it may be accepted almost as an authoritative declaration of the scope and effect of the amendment thus secured. Congress was deprived of all legislative power over mere opinion, but was left free to reach actions which were in violation of social duties or subversive of good order.

    i.e. No man can claim religious freedom to be a “law unto himself” which would render the government ineffectual and irrelevant.

    However, we must test this case, does the need for providing contraception via a private or religious organization’s health care provider constitute or rise to the level of violating social duties or subversive of good order? No, because contraception can be purchased or obtained without difficulty outside the insurance provided by the employer.

    Therefore, the government mandate *IS* violating the first amendment.

  2. jay says:

    Your proposed test is accepted by no one, nor can I surmise that it is grounded in anything but your own mind. In order for this measure to be unconstitutional it would either have establish a religion or act to prevent the exercise of religion. Arguing that a conscience clause protection, which would protect anyone from violating any law they wish as long as it does not “violate social duties or is subversive of good order” would be an extreme reinterpretation of the first amendment.

  3. JimC146 says:

    Oh yes, clearly I made this all up. Not that you bothered to check or anything.

    The fact is that forcing a religious group to provide coverage and pay for services that goes against their beliefs *is* preventing the free exercise of their religion. Now the passage I quoted previously, from a real court case BTW (Reynolds v U.S. (98 US 145 [1878])), establishes that not all things can be claimed infringement of religious beliefs, e.g. bigamy. That the state has the right to enforce laws above religious claims when they were in “violation of social duties or subversive of good order”. That “Congress did, in fact, have the power to restrict bigamy in the Utah Territory”.

    However, in another case, where two Jehovah’s Witnesses were convicted on breaking a solicitation law, the court struck down the law:

    The Court noted that the first freedom is absolute — there can be no restriction whatever on what the people are free to believe. As the Court noted in Reynolds, however, the freedom to act on belief can be regulated. The main difference in this case was not that solicitations for a religious sect could be regulated, but that the secretary of the public welfare council had to agree that a solicitation was for a valid religious purpose. This prior restraint, the Court wrote, was a censorship of religion and was clearly a “denial of liberty” under the 14th Amendment, and hence under the 1st. The prior restraint law was “obnoxious to the Constitution.”

    So in this example, a law existed that required prior consent for solicitation. The court struck down the law because it restricted the freedom to carry out their religion, that it denied liberty.

    So does the State forcing any religious organization to act contrary to their religion amount to a violation of the Constitution when that act is neither in violation of social duties or subversive to good order or to say that the act does not rise to the level of needing regulation? Yes it is a violation. Because although individuals may need contraception, they don’t need to obtain it from their employer by proxy of their insurance provider. Seeing how a resolution to satisfy both the religious body and the individual employee exists, that is the employer does not provide what they object, and the employee finds alternative provision for the things their employer cannot by faith provide. The only problem here is that the government has once again overreached it’s constitutional authority to mandate such things. It is the government causing the strife and therefore persecuting people of faith by stripping them of their religious liberty.

    Now I don’t agree with he Catholic Church on contraception. I do agree with them on their religious freedoms.

    But I won’t expect you to agree nor understand liberty. Progressives define liberty in an entirely different way…

  4. jay says:

    Jim,

    What I meant was that the Reynolds test is accepted by no one when applied this VERY different area of first amendment protections. Which it isn’t.

    What you are referencing is an entirely different type of behavior and regulation. Only vaguely applicable in this case. My central point is still the same, that what constitutes “social duties” or “good order” is not is being discussed here. Again, if such a protection existed there would be no need for there to be the Bush era conscience clause protections in place now. You are entitled to your opinion that upon balancing this particular aspect of religious liberty and this particular government regulation that it ought to be a subject to constitutional protections…but it is not and continues to not be. I am not denying that this is a potential constitutional issue (the entire federalization of health care is), but to claim that this is clearly a violation of some well established sector of constitutional protection is bogus. And, when you do look at this you have to compare apples and apples. A religious institution is being forced to pay for something that they religiously opposed to. There is no direct religious action or direct restriction to religious action involved.

    Jim, you and I can disagree about where to draw the liberty line and where to draw the government interest line. There may be cases where I think liberty is more important where you think that the government interest is important and vice versa. In either case, these are small disagreements in the grand scheme of our largely shared values system, but these things made out be large schisms in our society. That’s the rhetoric that raises money and wins elections. Its important to have intelligent disagreements about these things, but assuming that the other side of the disagreement has a fundamentally flawed or perverted understanding of fundamental american values is exactly what makes our politics the way it is today.

  5. JimC146 says:

    Jay, I do appreciate your ability to respectably disagree. Something sorely lacking on this site in the past.

    The only thing I would like to add to this dialogue at this point is to say that as a Software Engineer, I have to deal with logic all the time in my job. I can see the logic in the Catholic Church’s claim. Part of their faith is that contraception is a sin, abhorrent to their faith, whether we agree with that or not. So in the execution of their faith, they must teach this tenet and practice it not only in their individual lives but in the positions and offices of their faith.

    So here’s the problem, government is forcing them to go against their faith by asking them to separate their faith from the responsibilities as an employer for their faith based organizations. As you can imagine, asking one to “turn off” their faith is a paradox that only those who feign faith can seemingly do. Therefore, the government is putting the church at odds with its own beliefs, making them chose between being faithful and being an employer.

    As we saw in past cases, the government can pass laws that supersede religious rule or law but this has to be held to a high standard. As in the case with the two Jehovah’s Witnesses, a seemingly just law was found too restrictive against the practice of one’s religion. Therefore, it was struck down.

    This is relevant and similar to this case. By mandating at the Federal level no less, that a Catholic Church must provide insurance coverage to their employees for things the church holds as a matter of deep belief in opposition to, places the church in a position that they must choose to end their ability to employ people and thus the services they render in the name of their faith or concede and act contrary to their faith thereby destroying their ability to practice their faith with integrity. This is the very thing that is not allowed by the Constitution. This isn’t a conscience clause, this is forcing the church to actively go against their faith, forcing them to accept contraception.

    Furthermore, it is not necessary for such a mandate to be in place, which in itself places further undue angst against the church as what should be a matter of agreement between employer and employee, now has become the government forcing the employer to agree to things they would not agree to otherwise.

    This is so wrong on so many levels and is completely at odds with personal liberty and liberty of the church to practice their own faith and against liberty of free market to determine conditions by which employer and employee agree on employment.

    This is just wrong.

  6. kiel says:

    “No, because contraception can be purchased or obtained without difficulty outside the insurance provided by the employer.”

    You clearly have never tried to budget $200+ per month for contraception (which, btw, is often prescribed for non-birth control reasons) when you’re being paid minimum wage (or less, if you’re a restaurant worker). Trying to raise one or two kids on minium wage is hard enough; contraception ensures you won’t be raising several more, too.

  7. JimC146 says:

    kiel,

    That’s a sad story and I do realize there’s hardship. However, ask yourself, does your desire for cheap contraception (not a right by the way) trump the 1st amendment rights of others? (Hint: No it doesn’t). Furthermore, the government has no right to mandate such things. The only reason things like this are allowed to pass is because we’ve thrown out the constitution in favor of our own desires and unwittingly giving up our liberty in the process.

    There are other ways to obtain insurance coverage or ways to reduce the cost of such expenses outside your employer. There are health saving plans, supplemental insurance plans, etc. Look to charitable organizations, etc.

  8. matt says:

    jesus christ. you’ve been more than willing to throw out the constitution on any number of occasions. but when it’s screwing poor people, you’re all for it.

    health savings plans/supplemental insurance are for people who have money, not those living in borderline poverty.

    and charitable organizations are more than likely the same religious organizations who won’t provide contraception in the first place. so none of your suggestions are applicable, color me shocked.

  9. kiel says:

    JimC–The Constitution ensures freedom FROM religion. Unless an employer institutes a religious litmus test for employees (as a condition of employment), that employer has no right to impose his/her belief on any employees. Period. I think you should not only check out your holy Constitution, but also the two centuries of interpretation of that document by the Supreme Court and various lower courts.

  10. JimC146 says:

    you’ve been more than willing to throw out the constitution on any number of occasions.

    On any number of occasions? Only one I can think of that we went on about was the Patriot Act and I admit that I Was wrong. The Patriot Act was and continues to be an affront to liberty.

    but when it’s screwing poor people, you’re all for it.

    [sarcasm]Ahh yes, losing liberty is always justified if it is for the poor, or for the children, yes for the children, or wait even for the whales, no wait for the polar bears….yes liberty is worth giving up for the polar bears.[/sarcasm]

    health savings plans/supplemental insurance are for people who have money, not those living in borderline poverty.

    Yes because the poor are the ones who are affected by the Catholic Church not providing contraception coverage in their insurance plans…seriously? Have you taken a hit on the head? You’ve lost your edge.

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    Kiel, this says it all “your holy Constitution”…enough said, I know where you stand.