John Yoo And The Limits Of Presidential Power

John Yoo believes that the President of the United States has the constitutional authority and unfettered power to order an entire village to be “massacred”.

John Yoo believes that Congress cannot stop the President from using nuclear weapons, if he “thought in good faith he was saving millions of … lives”. (Note that lives don’t actually have to be saved. It is not even necessary that there is probable cause to believe that lives will be saved. All that matters is the the president of the United States believes — in good faith or with a straight face — that lives will be saved.)

Given the recent track record of Presidents believing things that are simply not true — WMDs in Iraq, Iraq’s involvement in 9/11 — that’s a pretty disconcerting set of beliefs.

However, a compelling case could be made that John Yoo, by producing the torture memos on demand, and by spouting stuff like the nuclear weapons statement on TV, has endangered and continues to endanger the national security of the United States. His garbage allows the terrorists to adduce evidence in support of their contention that the US is an evil empire that must be opposed by any and all means, allows them to recruit the kind of maniacs who cheerfully perpetrate moral outrages like the 9/11 attacks.

So here’s the question: if the President thinks in good faith he would save thousands of lives by shutting Yoo’s mouth, what are the limits of his constitutional authority?

  • Can he order Yoo to be waterboarded 200 times in one month (to persuade him to forever hold his peace)?
  • Can he order Yoo to be transported to a black site and held there till the indeterminate end of the war on terror, since he can’t be trusted to forever hold his peace (even if he gives his word to do so after being waterboarded 200 times)?
  • Can he order Yoo to be transported to a black site, there to be buggered daily by a dozen donkeys till he promises to forever hold his peace?
  • Can he order the surgical extraction without anesthesia of one of Yoo’s testicles, as a down payment on what will happen if he somehow forgets to forever hold his peace?
  • Can he order Yoo to be humanely held in solitary confinement for the rest of his natural life, since he can’t be trusted to forever hold his peace?
  • I can see batteries of lawyers lining up to argue that none of these alternatives can — in good faith and with a straight face — be called more extreme than ordering the massacre of an entire village.

    Comments

    1. tommo says:

      And according to Yoo it sounds like he wouldn’t mind having his fingernails pulled out, spending weeks on the rack, lots of cattleprod play, and electrodes to various parts. Pain near, but not exceeding organ failure or death.

      What an idiot. Ten years ago I never would have believed the soul of my country could have sold FOR NOTHING, and especially by the “Law & Order” party of phonies. May they all burn in hell.

    2. matt says:

      Ten years ago I never would have believed the soul of my country could have sold FOR NOTHING, and especially by the “Law & Order” party of phonies. May they all burn in hell.

      which party was in power when it was decided as a matter of law that what yoo did didn’t rise to the level of a crime, essentially codifying this soul selling?

      which party was in power when it was decided that there would be no high-level investigations into the torture regime, black sites, intel stovepiping, selective declassification, and lying us into war, essentially opening the door permanently to this kind of “governance?”

      should members of that party burn in hell also?

      take a look around. democrats now own everything bush did because obama made a shitty political calculation that he’d get more done on his watered down bullshit agenda if he played nice. well, the rule of law is down the toilet with even a shred of said watered down bullshit agenda, and no one has anything to show for it except john yoo’s tenured law professorship at cal fucking berkeley.

      i BEG you to try to argue with anything i’ve written.