Stimulus Bill Shenanigans

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I am somewhat in sympathy with Hilzoy, when she writes:

There are good reasons to try for bipartisan support regardless of how likely you think you are to succeed.

If you do succeed, then both parties have some ownership of the stimulus bill, neither will be as eager to politicize it, and it will be harder for either to use it to beat up the other. This is good. If you try hard, and publicly, to attract Republican support, but fail, then Republicans look like intransigent ideologues who would rather try to score political points than actually deal with the serious problems the country faces. You, by contrast, look reasonable: you tried to reach out, but your efforts were rejected.

The problem, though, is the collateral damage: the bruised and bloodied stimulus bill that limped out of the House yesterday. Given the shape the economy is in — thanks to eight years of you-know-what by you-know-who — the country can ill afford to water down the stimulus bill. And despite my slight sympathy for Hilzoy’s argument, I do regard the watering down as perfectly pointless.

In the sense that making a good-faith attempt at bipartisanship to show up the Republicans as intransigent ideologues could just as well have been done later. Nothing was gained by doing it now, right out of the starting gate. Obama would have lost nothing by deferring this three-dimensional chess exercise to later; the country would have benefited hugely, from a stronger, more focused stimulus bill.

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Speaking of bipartisanship, it looks very much like Republicans have their own private definition of the term. To them, it seems to mean that there shall be two parties, and ne’er the twain shall cooperate (no matter how urgent the problems facing the country).

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The House vote on the stimulus package — with not a single Republican voting to support it — does raise a couple of questions in my mind.

— What kind of idiots take orders from clowns like John Boehner and Eric Cantor?

— Why?

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Unless, of course, they’re all (including (Boehner and Cantor)) taking orders from Rush Limbaugh, who is now the effective leader of the Republican party, if only because there is no other leader in sight.

All the available evidence certainly points to Republicans having anointed Limbaugh as some like of malevolent Living Buddha (a shock-ya-muni, if you will).

Let’s start with Rep. Phil Gingrey. In what can only be described as an extremely foolish moment, he sniped at Limbaugh (and Hannity and Gingrich) on Tuesday:

“I think that our leadership, Mitch McConnell and John Boehner, are taking the right approach,” Gingrey said. “I mean, it’s easy if you’re Sean Hannity or Rush Limbaugh or even sometimes Newt Gingrich to stand back and throw bricks. You don’t have to try to do what’s best for your people and your party. You know you’re just on these talk shows and you’re living well and plus you stir up a bit of controversy and gin the base and that sort of that thing. But when it comes to true leadership, not that these people couldn’t be or wouldn’t be good leaders, they’re not in that position of John Boehner or Mitch McConnell.”

Such a storm of critical comments descended upon Gingrey’s office that Gingrey in short order produced two abject apologies in quick succession. First, a public apology via statement released by his office:

“Because of the high volume of phone calls and correspondence received by my office since the Politico article ran, I wanted to take a moment to speak directly to grassroots conservatives,” Gingrey said in a new statement released by his office. “Let me assure you, I am one of you.”

“I never told Rush to back off,” Gingrey continued. “I regret and apologize for the fact that my comments have offended and upset my fellow conservatives—that was not my intent…Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, Newt Gingrich, and other conservative giants are the voices of the conservative movement’s conscience.”

(Rush Limbaugh is a conservative giants who is the voice of the conservative movement’s conscience? I wonder how well that sits with the likes of Charles Krauthammer and Bill Kristol? But, of course, Gingrey will not be apologizing to them any time soon. Since they are not Living Buddhas.)

But when you have blasphemed the Living Buddha of the Republican party, especially such a vindictive one, indirect apology can hardly suffice. You have to personally prostrate yourself before the deity, and Gingrey was certainly equal to that. Making “a rare guest appearance on Limbaugh’s radio show” yesterday, Gingrey paid obeisance to Limbaugh as a “conservative giant” and apologized with abjectly sincere penitence:

Rush, thank you so much. I thank you for the opportunity, of course this is not exactly the way to I wanted to come on. … Mainly, I want to express to you and all your listeners my very sincere regret for those comments I made yesterday to Politico. … I clearly ended up putting my foot in my mouth on some of those comments. … I regret those stupid comments.

(Unfortunately, I have to rush off on an early morning errand. I’ll be posting a “Part Two” to this post later.)

Comments

  1. matt says:

    hilzoy apparently lives in the same fantasy land as team obama. this isn’t how politics works. republicans will attack democrats for anything, regardless of who voted for what. why is this not clear?

  2. sarabeth says:

    Maybe there is going to be a new twist to that same old story. Maybe Democrats will attack back, based on who voted for what:

    Pushing back against the unanimous House Republican vote against President Obama’s stimulus plan, the White House plans to release state-by-state job figures “so we can put a number on what folks voted for and against,” an administration aide said.

    “It’s clear the Republicans who voted against the stimulus represent constituents who will be stunned to learn their member of Congress voted against [saving or] creating 4 million jobs,” the aide said.

    White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs said the lawmakers will have to answer to their constituents. And a Democratic official added: “We will run campaigns in their districts.”

  3. matt says:

    the remaining republicans in the house represent incredibly red districts. they aren’t going to pay much of a price for this.

  4. sarabeth says:

    Let’s see what happens.

    The stimulus bill was pretty popular among Republicans too. And everybody will understand the job loss implications of this vote, all too easily.

    There may be no danger of these seats passing into Democratic hands. But that will be small consolation to the current incumbents if they lose to primary challengers because their approval ratings have nosedived.

  5. matt says:

    And everybody will understand the job loss implications of this vote, all too easily.

    have we met?

  6. joe says:

    Hmm, a bunch of Democrats complaining about lack of bipartisanship cooperation. Hello pot, meet kettle. You sound like a bunch of elementary school kids trying to convince the teacher that “joey pushed me first.” It’s exactly the inability to look at an issue from more than one standpoint, as all of you are failing to do, and see that both sides are equally guilty for different reasons and on different occasions that makes “bipartisan” cooperation so hard to achieve. Before you criticize, try looking in the mirror now and then. Not to typecast you, but people who think their opinions are important enough to blog about them day in and day out on their own personal website are often not very good at listening, compromising, or seeing things anyone else’s way. They often tend to dissmiss other people’s opinions with quipish one liners that mostly fail to address the point. I don’t know enough about either of you personally to accurately point the finger, but if the shoe fits, wear it. Luckily, I don’t think Obama is like you… at all.

  7. matt says:

    I don’t know enough about either of you personally

    and you also haven’t bothered to read what we’re written either. so stop talking until you have.

    here’s something you can tell me: why do you feel the need to change your name each time you spew your drivel?

    IP 143.81.6.11:
    joe
    ?
    GI Joe
    The token white guy
    ed

  8. sarabeth says:

    multiple personality disorder, maybe?

  9. joeblow says:

    I do read what you write and it’s very sad to see a bunch of people with the same opinions sitting around all day long and never having to back up what they say. After reading through a lot of the past comments on your website, you’re usual response, on the rare occasion that someone of a differing opinion ever posts anything, is to dismiss it as not having any relevance, to pretend like you don’t understand what they meant, or to spit out some irrelevant degrading one-liner. I have enjoyed debating a bit and I thank you again for that. Is I’ve said, I do find myself surrounded by far too many boring republicans. Unfortunately, I have come to realize that this blog is less meant for debating and more meant for unproductive, one sided discussion. I mean isn’t it so much more fun to clash opinions with people that disagree with you? Or does it just make you angry. I don’t have near the five or six years that you have had on this blog to sharpen my opinions, and I’m still very young, but you would be that much more firm in your beliefs if you could have a dispassionate discussion with someone who disagrees with you and has as much experience at blogging or whatever this is that you do. Look back at your “About 1115″ page and you will find that Ed Smiggle’s comment was fairly close to the truth.

    In answer to your question, I have posted a different name when I comment because my name, as well as my email address, are none of anyones business and are irrelevant. I apologize for violating your comment policy but my random names are not meant “for the purpose of personal attack,” and I really don’t understand what the point is in having everyone’s email address when you can just see everyone’s IP address.

    Don’t bother to ban my IP address, it’s easy to get another one. If you don’t want me to post, I won’t. Blogging is very addictive and takes up a lot of ones time, sometimes even years.

  10. matt says:

    you’ll pick one and stick with it. or you can go.

    no third choice.

  11. sarabeth says:

    In answer to your question, I have posted a different name when I comment because my name, as well as my email address, are none of anyones business and are irrelevant. I apologize for violating your comment policy but my random names are not meant “for the purpose of personal attack,” and I really don’t understand what the point is in having everyone’s email address when you can just see everyone’s IP address.

    This is disingenuous, dishonest bullshit.

    One, no one is asking for your real name. You are free to cloak your real identity under whatever screen name you like. So “I have posted a different name when I comment because my name, as well as my email address, are none of anyones business and are irrelevant” is just blowing smoke. It does nothing to address why you posted a different name each time.

    Two, you’re so smart but so ethically challenged that you don’t recognize this as dishonest behavior? The point is that by pretending to be a different person each time, you’re playing dishonest games with every one who reads your comments. For example, you are creating the false impression that we have multiple pissed-off readers, not just one dishonest wimp hiding behind different screen names for effect.

  12. joeblow says:

    Have a nice life.

  13. sarabeth says:

    And as he leaves, he spits out an irrelevant one-liner instead of actually addressing what was said to him…

  14. joeblow says:

    My apologies. Never meant to give anyone any false impressions about your reader base. I kept the names I used the same under the various topics that I posted under should anyone wish to debate (though I screwed up with the name on this one). I just really didn’t think the name mattered all that much. Again, and sincerely, have a nice life.

  15. joeblow says:

    Ha! You guys post too quickly for me to keep up. Slow connectivity here. I feel double-teamed. Hope I answered your question. If not, let me know. Otherwise, thanks again, and good-bye for real this time.

  16. sarabeth says:

    You have a nice life, too.

    Try to grow up a bit.

    We’re always ready to debate anyone who comes here genuinely to debate. (Matt actually hungers for honest debate with people who disagree with him, a fact that any long-term reader will attest to.)

    People who come here for honest debate, though, probably shouldn’t start out spewing insults. There are many examples from your comments on other threads too, but I’m not willing to invest the time to go back and look through them, so I’ll just stick to this thread.

    Comment 6 is one extended insult. Remarks like these are hardly conducive to, or in the spirit of, honest debate; I have a firm policy of ignoring anyone who comes in here mouthing off in this way.

    You’re really kidding yourself if you believe you came in here looking for an honest discussion and we slapped you away.

  17. kenemabowser says:

    If you want to put a hugh tax burden on your grandchildren, go ahead. I have no kids so it don’t bother me. The markets even say it won’t work. Have you ever wondered what collateral our country will put up for this loan. A national forest or perhaps natural resources? Oh yea, I thought it was patriotic to pay your taxes. AAAAHHHHHHH, the hypocracy.

  18. kenemabowser says:

    If you want to put a hugh tax burden on your grandchildren, go ahead. I have no kids so it don’t bother me. The markets even say it won’t work. Have you ever wondered what collateral our country will put up for this loan. A national forest or perhaps natural resources? Oh yea, I thought it was patriotic to pay your taxes. AAAAHHHHHHH, the hypocracy.

  19. kenemabowser says:

    If you want to put a hugh tax burden on your grandchildren, go ahead. I have no kids so it don’t bother me. The markets even say it won’t work. Have you ever wondered what collateral our country will put up for this loan. A national forest or perhaps natural resources? Oh yea, I thought it was patriotic to pay your taxes. AAAAHHHHHHH, the hypocracy.