Comments on: The Auto Bailout Fiasco http://www.1115.org/2008/12/12/the-auto-bailout-fiasco/ west coast cap peelers Fri, 12 Mar 2010 16:18:37 -0700 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: sarabeth http://www.1115.org/2008/12/12/the-auto-bailout-fiasco/comment-page-1/#comment-77103 sarabeth Fri, 12 Dec 2008 19:47:24 +0000 http://www.1115.org/2008/12/12/the-auto-bailout-fiasco/#comment-77103 Just to put Jason's "thinking" in perspective, here's an earlier segment from the post he's hawking: <blockquote>According to GM's annual report, it paid the UAW workers $73.26 per hour in wages and benefits. [2]</blockquote> That has been <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2008/12/10/business/economy/10leonhardt.html?bl&ex=1229144400&en=402e6793db93da56&ei=5087%0A" rel="nofollow">thoroughly debunked</a> as deceptive hogwash. So sorry, buddy, your credibility is zero. Either you're being deliberately dishonest or you have no idea what you're talking about. Or both. Just to put Jason’s “thinking” in perspective, here’s an earlier segment from the post he’s hawking:

According to GM’s annual report, it paid the UAW workers $73.26 per hour in wages and benefits. [2]

That has been thoroughly debunked as deceptive hogwash. So sorry, buddy, your credibility is zero. Either you’re being deliberately dishonest or you have no idea what you’re talking about. Or both.

]]> By: Jason http://www.1115.org/2008/12/12/the-auto-bailout-fiasco/comment-page-1/#comment-77102 Jason Fri, 12 Dec 2008 17:29:37 +0000 http://www.1115.org/2008/12/12/the-auto-bailout-fiasco/#comment-77102 General Motors had offered buyouts to all of its 74,000 U.S. hourly employees. [5] Those workers could have elected to take a lump-sum payment of $45,000 or $62,500, depending on their job description, and retire with full benefits. [6] Republican Sen. George V. Voinovich of Ohio, a strong bailout supporter, said the UAW was willing to make the cuts - but not until 2011.. http://nomedals.blogspot.com is were citations are posted General Motors had offered buyouts to all of its 74,000 U.S. hourly employees. [5] Those workers could have elected to take a lump-sum payment of $45,000 or $62,500, depending on their job description, and retire with full benefits. [6]

Republican Sen. George V. Voinovich of Ohio, a strong bailout supporter, said the UAW was willing to make the cuts – but not until 2011..

http://nomedals.blogspot.com
is were citations are posted

]]> By: Jason http://www.1115.org/2008/12/12/the-auto-bailout-fiasco/comment-page-1/#comment-77101 Jason Fri, 12 Dec 2008 17:29:12 +0000 http://www.1115.org/2008/12/12/the-auto-bailout-fiasco/#comment-77101 General Motors had offered buyouts to all of its 74,000 U.S. hourly employees. [5] Those workers could have elected to take a lump-sum payment of $45,000 or $62,500, depending on their job description, and retire with full benefits. [6] Republican Sen. George V. Voinovich of Ohio, a strong bailout supporter, said the UAW was willing to make the cuts - but not until 2011. http://nomedals.blogspot.com is were citations are posted General Motors had offered buyouts to all of its 74,000 U.S. hourly employees. [5] Those workers could have elected to take a lump-sum payment of $45,000 or $62,500, depending on their job description, and retire with full benefits. [6]

Republican Sen. George V. Voinovich of Ohio, a strong bailout supporter, said the UAW was willing to make the cuts – but not until 2011.

http://nomedals.blogspot.com
is were citations are posted

]]> By: Nick Shanders http://www.1115.org/2008/12/12/the-auto-bailout-fiasco/comment-page-1/#comment-77100 Nick Shanders Fri, 12 Dec 2008 15:48:25 +0000 http://www.1115.org/2008/12/12/the-auto-bailout-fiasco/#comment-77100 You have got to be kidding me. I am watching the president of the UAW live on CNN whinning about how the United States GOVERNMENT has a RESPONSIBILITY to bail out the auto industry! Greed has come back to bite your industry and labor union. You make 28 dollars / hr. And you have the audacity to complain? The average person in America who busts their *** every day doesn't make anywhere what you do. We don't get to be supported and receive medical insurance for life when we retire. We don't get to be "laid off" AND still receive 90% of their pay to sit at home and play golf. Wake up! The average Joe doesn't trust you or the auto industry to do anything different than what you have done in the past. Welcome to the average American's daily struggle. No one is offering to "bailout" main street America. The UAW is no different from any other "Poor me! I can't take responsibility for my own actions. I need someone else fix my problems." complainers that are ruining our country. Shame on you. You have got to be kidding me. I am watching the president of the UAW live on CNN whinning about how the United States GOVERNMENT has a RESPONSIBILITY to bail out the auto industry! Greed has come back to bite your industry and labor union. You make 28 dollars / hr. And you have the audacity to complain? The average person in America who busts their *** every day doesn’t make anywhere what you do. We don’t get to be supported and receive medical insurance for life when we retire. We don’t get to be “laid off” AND still receive 90% of their pay to sit at home and play golf. Wake up! The average Joe doesn’t trust you or the auto industry to do anything different than what you have done in the past. Welcome to the average American’s daily struggle. No one is offering to “bailout” main street America. The UAW is no different from any other “Poor me! I can’t take responsibility for my own actions. I need someone else fix my problems.” complainers that are ruining our country. Shame on you.

]]> By: sarabeth http://www.1115.org/2008/12/12/the-auto-bailout-fiasco/comment-page-1/#comment-77099 sarabeth Fri, 12 Dec 2008 15:45:33 +0000 http://www.1115.org/2008/12/12/the-auto-bailout-fiasco/#comment-77099 Does anyone know if Kennedy (or one of the other 3 did-not-vote senators) was not present? Was there no hope of getting to 60 even if all Democrats present had voted against the filibuster? Does anyone know if Kennedy (or one of the other 3 did-not-vote senators) was not present?

Was there no hope of getting to 60 even if all Democrats present had voted against the filibuster?

]]> By: matt http://www.1115.org/2008/12/12/the-auto-bailout-fiasco/comment-page-1/#comment-77098 matt Fri, 12 Dec 2008 15:19:39 +0000 http://www.1115.org/2008/12/12/the-auto-bailout-fiasco/#comment-77098 >Maybe there was some arcane Senate deep strategy involved? i believe as majority leader, reid had to vote that way to be able to bring the bill up again. i remember frist having t do this a few times. the others can go fuck themselves, especially tester. >Maybe there was some arcane Senate deep strategy involved?

i believe as majority leader, reid had to vote that way to be able to bring the bill up again. i remember frist having t do this a few times.

the others can go fuck themselves, especially tester.

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