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	<title>Comments on: It&#8217;s all Relative</title>
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		<title>By: Nogburt</title>
		<link>http://www.1115.org/2008/07/02/its-all-relative/comment-page-1/#comment-76151</link>
		<dc:creator>Nogburt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2008 02:11:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;couple that with de-leveraging and unwillingness to lend. what does that spell?

It spells a reduction in the increase of credit expansion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;couple that with de-leveraging and unwillingness to lend. what does that spell?</p>
<p>It spells a reduction in the increase of credit expansion.</p>
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		<title>By: matt</title>
		<link>http://www.1115.org/2008/07/02/its-all-relative/comment-page-1/#comment-76149</link>
		<dc:creator>matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jul 2008 19:33:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;Those charts primarily showed a slowing in the increase of the rate of inflation.

couple that with de-leveraging and unwillingness to lend.  what does that spell?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>>Those charts primarily showed a slowing in the increase of the rate of inflation.</p>
<p>couple that with de-leveraging and unwillingness to lend.  what does that spell?</p>
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		<title>By: Nogburt</title>
		<link>http://www.1115.org/2008/07/02/its-all-relative/comment-page-1/#comment-76147</link>
		<dc:creator>Nogburt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jul 2008 18:27:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Those charts primarily showed a slowing in the increase of the rate of inflation.

&gt;if banks canâ€™t/donâ€™t want to lend money, no one can make them, and even 0% interest wonâ€™t fix that.

This is true right as the fractional reserve fiat system reaches its limit. But it isn&#039;t very comforting to realize that the banking system stops responding to a broken thermometer just as soon as it breaks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Those charts primarily showed a slowing in the increase of the rate of inflation.</p>
<p>&gt;if banks canâ€™t/donâ€™t want to lend money, no one can make them, and even 0% interest wonâ€™t fix that.</p>
<p>This is true right as the fractional reserve fiat system reaches its limit. But it isn&#8217;t very comforting to realize that the banking system stops responding to a broken thermometer just as soon as it breaks.</p>
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		<title>By: matt</title>
		<link>http://www.1115.org/2008/07/02/its-all-relative/comment-page-1/#comment-76145</link>
		<dc:creator>matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jul 2008 04:39:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;Notice the use of the word â€œcouldâ€.

what&#039;s your point?  i posted that because of the charts and the fact that serious people are now taking this seriously as a possibility.  i didn&#039;t say it &lt;em&gt;was&lt;/em&gt; going to happen, just that it looks an awful lot like it already is.

i don&#039;t think the authorities even have much control.  de-leveraging is deflationary, and all of the banks have to de-leverage.  if banks can&#039;t/don&#039;t want to lend money, no one can make them, and even 0% interest won&#039;t fix that.  see: japan.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>>Notice the use of the word â€œcouldâ€.</p>
<p>what&#8217;s your point?  i posted that because of the charts and the fact that serious people are now taking this seriously as a possibility.  i didn&#8217;t say it <em>was</em> going to happen, just that it looks an awful lot like it already is.</p>
<p>i don&#8217;t think the authorities even have much control.  de-leveraging is deflationary, and all of the banks have to de-leverage.  if banks can&#8217;t/don&#8217;t want to lend money, no one can make them, and even 0% interest won&#8217;t fix that.  see: japan.</p>
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		<title>By: Nogburt</title>
		<link>http://www.1115.org/2008/07/02/its-all-relative/comment-page-1/#comment-76141</link>
		<dc:creator>Nogburt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jul 2008 02:02:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;&quot;the entire economic system of the North Atlantic could tip into debt deflation over the next two years if the authorities misjudge the risk.&quot;

Notice the use of the word &quot;could&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;&#8221;the entire economic system of the North Atlantic could tip into debt deflation over the next two years if the authorities misjudge the risk.&#8221;</p>
<p>Notice the use of the word &#8220;could&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: matt</title>
		<link>http://www.1115.org/2008/07/02/its-all-relative/comment-page-1/#comment-76139</link>
		<dc:creator>matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jul 2008 04:53:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.telegraph.co.uk/money/main.jhtml?xml=/money/2008/07/11/cnmoney111.xml&quot; target=_blank rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this doesn&#039;t look steady.&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.telegraph.co.uk/money/main.jhtml?xml=/money/2008/07/11/cnmoney111.xml" target=_blank rel="nofollow">this doesn&#8217;t look steady.</a></p>
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		<title>By: Nogburt</title>
		<link>http://www.1115.org/2008/07/02/its-all-relative/comment-page-1/#comment-76138</link>
		<dc:creator>Nogburt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jul 2008 04:32:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;money supply isnâ€™t rising any faster than before.

I think that you&#039;re general point here is more or less correct for the mediate term. But unless they are going to stomach the political mess of bank failures and mortgage mayhem they&#039;re going to have to print more money or invent or use some other exacerbating device.

And one the straight up money supply side of things, judging by the Federal Reserve numbers the inflation is still pretty steady. federalreserve.gov/releases/ has several informative tables and charts of these tables are available on Wikipedia.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;money supply isnâ€™t rising any faster than before.</p>
<p>I think that you&#8217;re general point here is more or less correct for the mediate term. But unless they are going to stomach the political mess of bank failures and mortgage mayhem they&#8217;re going to have to print more money or invent or use some other exacerbating device.</p>
<p>And one the straight up money supply side of things, judging by the Federal Reserve numbers the inflation is still pretty steady. federalreserve.gov/releases/ has several informative tables and charts of these tables are available on Wikipedia.</p>
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		<title>By: matt</title>
		<link>http://www.1115.org/2008/07/02/its-all-relative/comment-page-1/#comment-76085</link>
		<dc:creator>matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 15:45:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;How can you say there is simultaneously inflation and deflation?

i&#039;m not.  inflation doesn&#039;t mean rising prices.  and even if it did, only the price of goods and some services are even rising.  wages are flat to falling.

money supply isn&#039;t rising any faster than before.  treasury.gov has lots of pretty charts.

iraq certainly isn&#039;t helping, but as our war-supporting friends like to remind us, it&#039;s a small portion of gdp.

iraq and iran are adding risk premium to the price of oil for sure.

&gt;But oilâ€™s up much more against the dollar than the euro.

because they&#039;re raising and we&#039;re cutting rates.  not the same as printing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>>How can you say there is simultaneously inflation and deflation?</p>
<p>i&#8217;m not.  inflation doesn&#8217;t mean rising prices.  and even if it did, only the price of goods and some services are even rising.  wages are flat to falling.</p>
<p>money supply isn&#8217;t rising any faster than before.  treasury.gov has lots of pretty charts.</p>
<p>iraq certainly isn&#8217;t helping, but as our war-supporting friends like to remind us, it&#8217;s a small portion of gdp.</p>
<p>iraq and iran are adding risk premium to the price of oil for sure.</p>
<p>>But oilâ€™s up much more against the dollar than the euro.</p>
<p>because they&#8217;re raising and we&#8217;re cutting rates.  not the same as printing.</p>
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		<title>By: effay</title>
		<link>http://www.1115.org/2008/07/02/its-all-relative/comment-page-1/#comment-76084</link>
		<dc:creator>effay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 15:20:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;the things people buy cost more money.&quot;

I totally agree.

&quot;but money supply and credit are actually decreasing which means that we are experiencing deflation. no one is printing or lending.&quot;

What is your source? How can you say there is simultaneously inflation and deflation? That&#039;s not possible. How is the government paying for Iraq and everything else if not by printing money?

&quot;oil is up against all currencies, as are ag commodities.&quot;

But oil&#039;s up much more against the dollar than the euro.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;the things people buy cost more money.&#8221;</p>
<p>I totally agree.</p>
<p>&#8220;but money supply and credit are actually decreasing which means that we are experiencing deflation. no one is printing or lending.&#8221;</p>
<p>What is your source? How can you say there is simultaneously inflation and deflation? That&#8217;s not possible. How is the government paying for Iraq and everything else if not by printing money?</p>
<p>&#8220;oil is up against all currencies, as are ag commodities.&#8221;</p>
<p>But oil&#8217;s up much more against the dollar than the euro.</p>
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		<title>By: sarabeth</title>
		<link>http://www.1115.org/2008/07/02/its-all-relative/comment-page-1/#comment-76083</link>
		<dc:creator>sarabeth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 15:18:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>funny how anything and everything gets reduced to a choice of only two options.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>funny how anything and everything gets reduced to a choice of only two options.</p>
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