Comments on: The Michigan-Florida Delegate Impasse http://www.1115.org/2008/05/28/the-michigan-florida-delegate-impasse/ west coast cap peelers Thu, 18 Mar 2010 01:48:15 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: Greendoggie http://www.1115.org/2008/05/28/the-michigan-florida-delegate-impasse/comment-page-1/#comment-75853 Greendoggie Thu, 29 May 2008 16:14:46 +0000 http://www.1115.org/2008/05/28/the-michigan-florida-delegate-impasse/#comment-75853 Please keep in mind it was a the Republican legislature in Florida that set the date for the primaries. Please keep in mind it was a the Republican legislature in Florida that set the date for the primaries.

]]> By: Greendoggie http://www.1115.org/2008/05/28/the-michigan-florida-delegate-impasse/comment-page-1/#comment-75852 Greendoggie Thu, 29 May 2008 16:13:46 +0000 http://www.1115.org/2008/05/28/the-michigan-florida-delegate-impasse/#comment-75852 Please, please keep in mind it was the republican legislature in Florida that set the date for the primaries. Please, please keep in mind it was the republican legislature in Florida that set the date for the primaries.

]]> By: Greendoggie http://www.1115.org/2008/05/28/the-michigan-florida-delegate-impasse/comment-page-1/#comment-75851 Greendoggie Thu, 29 May 2008 16:13:21 +0000 http://www.1115.org/2008/05/28/the-michigan-florida-delegate-impasse/#comment-75851 Please, please keep in mind it was the REPUBLICAN legislature in Florida that set the date for the PRIMARIES!!!!! Please, please keep in mind it was the REPUBLICAN legislature in Florida that set the date for the PRIMARIES!!!!!

]]> By: sarabeth http://www.1115.org/2008/05/28/the-michigan-florida-delegate-impasse/comment-page-1/#comment-75850 sarabeth Thu, 29 May 2008 11:22:46 +0000 http://www.1115.org/2008/05/28/the-michigan-florida-delegate-impasse/#comment-75850 Don't be a bloody ass, Fred. Counting the votes from a mock election that was declared in advance to be a mock election (and from an election with only one name on the ballot) is democracy only in the minds of deluded Clintons and Clintonites. The Clintons' excuse is that she is blinded by helpless ambition, and he is helplessly supporting her madness. What's <em>your</em> excuse? Don’t be a bloody ass, Fred. Counting the votes from a mock election that was declared in advance to be a mock election (and from an election with only one name on the ballot) is democracy only in the minds of deluded Clintons and Clintonites.

The Clintons’ excuse is that she is blinded by helpless ambition, and he is helplessly supporting her madness. What’s your excuse?

]]> By: Fred http://www.1115.org/2008/05/28/the-michigan-florida-delegate-impasse/comment-page-1/#comment-75849 Fred Thu, 29 May 2008 02:43:18 +0000 http://www.1115.org/2008/05/28/the-michigan-florida-delegate-impasse/#comment-75849 This ptoblem was generated by the DNC.In any democratic country every single vote is counted,that is the rule and the power for the people.To deny the counting of a single vote is a dictatorship act. If we are against totatiltarism.if we proclaim CHANGE all votes must be counted without restrictions..otherwise we migth be at the same level of Iran,Cuba,N Korea,you named. This ptoblem was generated by the DNC.In any democratic country every single vote is counted,that is the rule and the power for the people.To deny the counting of a single vote is a dictatorship act.
If we are against totatiltarism.if we proclaim CHANGE all votes must be counted without restrictions..otherwise we migth be at the same level of Iran,Cuba,N Korea,you named.

]]> By: Diann http://www.1115.org/2008/05/28/the-michigan-florida-delegate-impasse/comment-page-1/#comment-75848 Diann Thu, 29 May 2008 00:07:22 +0000 http://www.1115.org/2008/05/28/the-michigan-florida-delegate-impasse/#comment-75848 The DNC needs to count the votes as they were cast and admit the nistake they made, not the voters. the agreement between the candidates was not to campaign in these two states. Senator Clinton did not. Senator Obama spent 1.5 million dollars in Florida on national ads. He also had hundreds of staffers in the stae. Senator Clinton left her name on the Michigan ballot, Senator Obama removed his because he knew that he would lose. The DNC forgave three other states that moved theri primaries up against the ruls. In these states they are counting the votes and teh delegates. This is a ploy to make Senator Clinton lose this election, which she is rightfully winning. The Democratic party could lose as many as 18 million voters, and the General election because of this situation. I am one of them.. The DNC needs to count the votes as they were cast and admit the nistake they made, not the voters. the agreement between the candidates was not to campaign in these two states. Senator Clinton did not. Senator Obama spent 1.5 million dollars in Florida on national ads. He also had hundreds of staffers in the stae. Senator Clinton left her name on the Michigan ballot, Senator Obama removed his because he knew that he would lose.

The DNC forgave three other states that moved theri primaries up against the ruls. In these states they are counting the votes and teh delegates. This is a ploy to make Senator Clinton lose this election, which she is rightfully winning. The Democratic party could lose as many as 18 million voters, and the General election because of this situation. I am one of them..

]]> By: Robert Davis http://www.1115.org/2008/05/28/the-michigan-florida-delegate-impasse/comment-page-1/#comment-75847 Robert Davis Wed, 28 May 2008 23:01:49 +0000 http://www.1115.org/2008/05/28/the-michigan-florida-delegate-impasse/#comment-75847 What is the motive or explanation behind changing the rules? Why did FL & MI contest the rules? Why? Why should the rues change? What is the motive or explanation behind changing the rules?

Why did FL & MI contest the rules?

Why?

Why should the rues change?

]]> By: Esther http://www.1115.org/2008/05/28/the-michigan-florida-delegate-impasse/comment-page-1/#comment-75846 Esther Wed, 28 May 2008 22:53:28 +0000 http://www.1115.org/2008/05/28/the-michigan-florida-delegate-impasse/#comment-75846 To understand the real situation here in FL, let me explain that we have governor and state congress where the mayority is republican, and I so the democrats try to change the date, BUT the republican authority force the date before the 2nd of February. it was fantastic Republican strategic, as well it was fantastic by Republicans give the "independents votes" to Sen. Obama in the traditional RED STATES to divide the Democrat party in the primaries. This situation let the chance to the Republicans see the possibility to keep the White House, because Sen. Obama never will pick up those votes in General Election in the case he will the nominee, and I can see what will happen in the traditional BLUE states (Democrats) where Hillary Clinton gets the votes CA, NY, AZ, NM, TX, NJ, MA, CT, PA, VI, FL, MI, OH, etc... She has the popular vote, ALL states, big states with big electorals votes in November 4...... Can you predict who it is going to win???? To understand the real situation here in FL, let me explain that we have governor and state congress where the mayority is republican, and I so the democrats try to change the date, BUT the republican authority force the date before the 2nd of February. it was fantastic Republican strategic, as well it was fantastic by Republicans give the “independents votes” to Sen. Obama in the traditional RED STATES to divide the Democrat party in the primaries. This situation let the chance to the Republicans see the possibility to keep the White House, because Sen. Obama never will pick up those votes in General Election in the case he will the nominee, and I can see what will happen in the traditional BLUE states (Democrats) where Hillary Clinton gets the votes CA, NY, AZ, NM, TX, NJ, MA, CT, PA, VI, FL, MI, OH, etc… She has the popular vote, ALL states, big states with big electorals votes in November 4…… Can you predict who it is going to win????

]]> By: Esther http://www.1115.org/2008/05/28/the-michigan-florida-delegate-impasse/comment-page-1/#comment-75845 Esther Wed, 28 May 2008 22:39:12 +0000 http://www.1115.org/2008/05/28/the-michigan-florida-delegate-impasse/#comment-75845 Since the beginning the DNC make a discrimination rules prohibite to FL and MI the primaries prior to Feb 2nd, BUT accept to other states do it !!! The rules have to be for everyone, iqual or become in a real disaster as we have see it since past January. Now with the big mistake OVER for DNC will be impossible pick up any nomination without make any decision. Hillary Clinton won those states with big margen and in general election on November 4, the electoral Votes from both states could be a BIG differency to pick up the next President of USA. I am FL voter and i can sworn that if the decision is wrong..... the 1.9 millions democrat voters of FL will not be count as the DNC think. Be or no to be. Thanks. Since the beginning the DNC make a discrimination rules prohibite to FL and MI the primaries prior to Feb 2nd, BUT accept to other states do it !!! The rules have to be for everyone, iqual or become in a real disaster as we have see it since past January. Now with the big mistake OVER for DNC will be impossible pick up any nomination without make any decision. Hillary Clinton won those states with big margen and in general election on November 4, the electoral Votes from both states could be a BIG differency to pick up the next President of USA.
I am FL voter and i can sworn that if the decision is wrong….. the 1.9 millions democrat voters of FL will not be count as the DNC think. Be or no to be. Thanks.

]]> By: Dex Dean http://www.1115.org/2008/05/28/the-michigan-florida-delegate-impasse/comment-page-1/#comment-75844 Dex Dean Wed, 28 May 2008 22:25:33 +0000 http://www.1115.org/2008/05/28/the-michigan-florida-delegate-impasse/#comment-75844 Perfect example of the rules is in our favorite past time, baseball. The American League uses a designated hitter DH for the pitcher during the season. The National League does not, thus the pitchers hit for themselves. However, agreed upon by both leagues, DH's can not be used in the World Series. That is the agreed upon rules. Now as a comparison, the American League is way behind in the series and states, we want to start using DHs. No way, that is not the rule. This is a simple solution in that the rules are the rules which were agreed upon by both candidates. As we know, Obama did not even put his name of the Michigan ballot and did not campaign in FL where Hillary & Billy Bob were well know. If he had, more votes would have come his way. Only equitable solution is sticking with the rules. We give our children the rules so lets not send a bad message to not only the children but adults in this country. The Clintons have fallen from grace as they will do whatever it takes not matter what the rules are! Perfect example of the rules is in our favorite past time, baseball. The American League uses a designated hitter DH for the pitcher during the season. The National League does not, thus the pitchers hit for themselves. However, agreed upon by both leagues, DH’s can not be used in the World Series. That is the agreed upon rules. Now as a comparison, the American League is way behind in the series and states, we want to start using DHs. No way, that is not the rule. This is a simple solution in that the rules are the rules which were agreed upon by both candidates. As we know, Obama did not even put his name of the Michigan ballot and did not campaign in FL where Hillary & Billy Bob were well know. If he had, more votes would have come his way. Only equitable solution is sticking with the rules. We give our children the rules so lets not send a bad message to not only the children but adults in this country. The Clintons have fallen from grace as they will do whatever it takes not matter what the rules are!

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