Breaking Up Is Hard To Do
by sarabeth at 6:00 am on May 23rd, 2008 in Corruption, Religious Right / Extremists, Republican Clown Show, St. John McCainJohn McCain has suddenly found it impossible to go on defending John Hagee’s bilge, and his relationship with this bilge-pump.
Hagee hates Catholics, hates Muslims, hates gays, believes Jews are responsible for bringing persecution upon themselves, believes U.S. foreign policy should actively help bring about the Rapture, believes Americans’ sins led to Hurricane Katrina’s destruction, and in general, is an all-around nut.
Despite all this, McCain actively wooed him, seeking his support and his endorsement. For a whole year. When he won it,
Mr. McCain … said he was “very honored” by Mr. Hagee’s endorsement.
Confronted with Hagee’s bilge, McCain and his surrogates just sidestepped the issue initially. McCain didn’t repudiate, renounce or denounce any of Hagee’s hate-speech. He offered a tepid statement that he didn’t “agree with all of Pastor Hagee’s views”, but he was still proud to have his endorsement. McCain never explained which of Hagee’s views he didn’t actually agree with.
When he finally got around to making a formal statement, here’s what he emitted from his curiously located speech orifice:
Republican presidential candidate John McCain on Friday repudiated any views of a prominent televangelist who endorsed him last month “if they are anti-Catholic or offensive to Catholics.”
McCain didn’t repudiate any of the other hate-speech, just the anti-Catholic garbage. And he really wasn’t sure whether Catholics found it offensive that Hagee called the Catholic church “the great whore” and “a false cult system”, and that he “blamed Adolf Hitler’s Catholic education for his subsequent acts of genocide”. He wasn’t even sure if such views are anti-Catholic. But he did generously allow that he repudiated these views if they are anti-Catholic or offensive to Catholics.
At the same time, McCain continued to defend Hagee:
I will say that he said that his words were taken out of context, he defends his position. I hope that maybe you’d give him a chance to respond. He says he has never been anti-Catholic…
As recently as a month ago, John McCain’s official position on Hagee was: “I’m glad to have his endorsement.” And then this week, some more Hagee bilge hit the fan:
John Hagee, the controversial evangelical leader and endorser of Sen. John McCain, argued in a late 1990s sermon that the Nazis had operated on God’s behalf to chase the Jews from Europe and shepherd them to Palestine. According to the Reverend, Adolph Hitler was a “hunter,” sent by God, who was tasked with expediting God’s will of having the Jews re-establish a state of Israel.
How McCain managed to figure out that Jews (and others) might find these remarks offensive, we will never know (and Hagee of course says that he has never been anti-Semitic either), But something finally appears to have clicked in what McCain is pleased to call his brain. He finally repudiated the filth Hagee has been spouting for years, and he finally rejected Hagee’s endorsement. But St. John’s repudiation remarks sounded real strange to me:
Obviously, I find these remarks and others deeply offensive and indefensible, and I repudiate them. I did not know of them before Reverend Hagee’s endorsement, and I feel I must reject his endorsement as well.
Obviously? Hagee made all kinds of very offensive anti-Catholic remarks, and St. John did not find them very offensive at all. Hagee made all kinds of very offensive anti-gay remarks, and St. John did not find those very offensive at all. So it’s obvious St. John that St. John would find the Hitler-is-an-instrument-of-God’s-will remarks deeply offensive?
But what I find really strange about McCain’s statement is that it’s not just these latest Hitler remarks that he is deeply offended by. McCain finds other, previously aired remarks deeply offensive and indefensible too. So deeply offensive and indefensible that he never got around to repudiating them before? So deeply offensive and indefensible that it never interfered with being proud and glad to have Hagee’s endorsement?
What previous remarks are you thinking of, dear John? Prey tell; it would be so illuminating to know. And while you’re at it, how come you just quietly swallowed these deeply offensive remarks till now?
This joker can’t pull off a simple repudiation statement without putting his foot in it, and he wants to be president? Clearly, it’s not just his policies that make him a perfect Bush clone.
tradamerica wrote:
The willingness of people to lie in a insipid attempt to embellish their ideology is at the heart of all our problems in America. For anyone to attempt to manufacture some sort of equivalent dynamic vis-a-vis Hagee/McCain, and Wright/Obama is beyond dishonest…it’s evil. Hagee is a loving generous, forgiving soul who loves his country. Of course I know that alone is enough for him to be vilified by the likes of this blog, CNN, MSNBC and a host of other entities bereft of common decency.
Posted 23 May 2008 at 5:01 pm ¶
tradamerica wrote:
“Hagee hates Catholics, hates Muslims, hates gays, believes Jews are responsible for bringing persecution upon themselves, believes U.S. foreign policy should actively help bring about the Rapture, believes Americans’ sins led to Hurricane Katrina’s destruction, and in general, is an all-around nut.”
The above is an abject lie, perpetrated by a person who would be summarily executed by the people she presumes to worship.
The willingness of people to lie in a insipid attempt to embellish their ideology is at the heart of all our problems in America. For anyone to attempt to manufacture some sort of equivalent dynamic vis-a-vis Hagee/McCain, and Wright/Obama is beyond dishonest…it’s evil. Hagee is a loving generous, forgiving soul who loves his country. Of course I know that alone is enough for him to be vilified by the likes of this blog, CNN, MSNBC and a host of other entities bereft of common decency.
Posted 23 May 2008 at 5:03 pm ¶
do a little research wrote:
read the quotes yourself.
http://tndp.org/thedonkeysmouth/?p=214
Posted 23 May 2008 at 7:34 pm ¶
Dee wrote:
If people knew the bible, they would undertsand that God used various situations to draw people to Himself or to get them to where He wants them to be. Read about Abraham and what he went through. Read about Saul and others and see how many tough things that they suffered just to get to where God wants them to and to do what God wants them to do. Read about the Israelites and Pharoah, Daniel, the 3 Hebrew boys. Read before you open your mouth about pastors…..Hagee may come accross as harsh and hateful but he is not. Its passion. I have never been to his church or met him but I listen to him sometimes. Read the bible and put Hagee’s words next to what is in the bible. Gain knowlege prior to making yourself appear daff, ignorant or unlearnt. Gain knowlege for yourself. Stop taking what everyone says and stop following the crowd. If you do not know or believe in God, how can you understand the things that are spiritual? Never!
Posted 24 May 2008 at 4:07 am ¶
Victor wrote:
Spiritual belief and politics part company when the truth is known. Usually there is nothing in common between the “politically correct” and the truth!
Now!! is the time for all who do not know God and have no concept of spirtual truth and salvation to educate yourselves and decide where you will spend eternity!
You are a spirit being.
You have a soul.
You live in a body.
Think about it seriously. Eternity is a long, long time!
Posted 24 May 2008 at 5:53 am ¶
jamiebeth wrote:
OY!
Posted 24 May 2008 at 8:44 am ¶
sarabeth wrote:
Funny how this post about the bilge-pump and his bilge attracted more bilge.
What I’m really curious about is how these people found their way here. Maybe by googling “Hagee+bilge”?
Posted 24 May 2008 at 9:43 am ¶
sarabeth wrote:
Obviously, my friends, the last comment was an unworthy speculation on my part.
No disrespect was intended to God or Gods, or to His/Her/Its/Their official spokesfolk.
Posted 27 May 2008 at 7:27 am ¶
tradamerica wrote:
That’s ok sarabeth, I forgive you and surely hope you heal.
Posted 05 Jun 2008 at 5:45 am ¶
sarabeth wrote:
That’s mighty loving, generous and forgiving of you. You must be Hagee himself.
Posted 05 Jun 2008 at 6:13 am ¶