Comments on: Karl Rove’s New Math http://www.1115.org/2008/05/20/karl-roves-new-math/ Thu, 09 Feb 2012 21:49:02 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3 By: sarabeth http://www.1115.org/2008/05/20/karl-roves-new-math/comment-page-1/#comment-75815 sarabeth Tue, 20 May 2008 21:55:39 +0000 http://www.1115.org/2008/05/20/karl-roves-new-math/#comment-75815 I compared the SurveyUSA and Karl Rove maps from the same point in time (the first week of March). How does it matter if that was before "Wright, Ayers, Bittergate, etc"? The fact is that there was a huge difference in the Clinton-McCain results. <blockquote>I guess Rove does know what he is talking about, if Obama is the nominee then it will be President McCain, guaranteed.</blockquote> Even Rove wasn't stupid enough to give guarantees. I compared the SurveyUSA and Karl Rove maps from the same point in time (the first week of March). How does it matter if that was before “Wright, Ayers, Bittergate, etc”? The fact is that there was a huge difference in the Clinton-McCain results.

I guess Rove does know what he is talking about, if Obama is the nominee then it will be President McCain, guaranteed.

Even Rove wasn’t stupid enough to give guarantees.

]]> By: Greg http://www.1115.org/2008/05/20/karl-roves-new-math/comment-page-1/#comment-75813 Greg Tue, 20 May 2008 21:28:50 +0000 http://www.1115.org/2008/05/20/karl-roves-new-math/#comment-75813 First of all, that SUSA map is very old, before Wright, Ayers, Bittergate, etc. If you wanted to see a current map, visit http://electoral-vote.com Unlike the SUSA map, this one averages the major polls (kinda like Rove). She is winning vs. McCain 284-237, and Obama is losing to McCain 242-285. I guess Rove does know what he is talking about, if Obama is the nominee then it will be President McCain, guaranteed. Obama has offended too many Americans, and doesn't even try to get their support (West Virginia and Kentucky). Clinton 2012! First of all, that SUSA map is very old, before Wright, Ayers, Bittergate, etc.

If you wanted to see a current map, visit http://electoral-vote.com

Unlike the SUSA map, this one averages the major polls (kinda like Rove).

She is winning vs. McCain 284-237, and Obama is losing to McCain 242-285.

I guess Rove does know what he is talking about, if Obama is the nominee then it will be President McCain, guaranteed.

Obama has offended too many Americans, and doesn’t even try to get their support (West Virginia and Kentucky).

Clinton 2012!

]]> By: john http://www.1115.org/2008/05/20/karl-roves-new-math/comment-page-1/#comment-75810 john Tue, 20 May 2008 15:13:52 +0000 http://www.1115.org/2008/05/20/karl-roves-new-math/#comment-75810 Hillary knows she lost THE RACE AREADY! even if she wins the rest of the state and Florida she still will be behind OBAMA so WHY DOES SHE STILL WANT TO STAY IN THE RACE? I heard 2 reasons, one she might want a position as the top head honcho in the democratic party or she want to build as much negative against OBAMA , divide the party so when November comes OBAMA loses to McCain and she can look like a hero with the says " I TOLD YOU SO" What about Michigan she won there too? Really? OBAMA was not even in the ticket, so how can she claimed she won. That's like me playing golf with TIGER WOOD. He does not show up and I continue playing and say that I won. You will be looking at me like I'm crazy. What about Florida Obama was on the ticket and she won there too? Really? Florida broke the rules so Hillary and Obama didn't campaign in Florida. That's like The Lakers playing against Miami for the finals, the game is tide 100 to 100 in the 4th quarter with 10second to go and Miami do something that break the rules so the referee charge Miami with a technical stop the game but The Lakers continue playing and score and then say that they won the final. SUPERDELAGATES UNLESS YOU WANT THE REPUBLICAN AND MCCAIN TO WIN IN NOVEMBER HURRY PICK THE WINNER "OBAMA" MOST DELEGATES, MOST STATES, AND POPULAR VOTES BEFORE IS TOO LATE. The hardcore republicans is not going to change their mind they will vote for Gaddafi if he was running as a republican but the young people, independent and young republican will vote for OBAMA. What about white working class, I know Obama raised more than 100 MILLIONS! IN 4 MONTHS AND YOU KNOW ALL THAT MONEY DIDN'T COME FROM AFRICAN AMERICAN ONLY. COME ON LETS WIN TOGETHER BEFORE IS TOO LATE!!!!!!!!!!!! Hillary knows she lost THE RACE AREADY! even if she wins the rest of the state and Florida she still will be behind OBAMA so WHY DOES SHE STILL WANT TO STAY IN THE RACE? I heard 2 reasons, one she might want a position as the top head honcho in the democratic party or she want to build as much negative against OBAMA , divide the party so when November comes OBAMA loses to McCain and she can look like a hero with the says ” I TOLD YOU SO” What about Michigan she won there too? Really? OBAMA was not even in the ticket, so how can she claimed she won. That’s like me playing golf with TIGER WOOD. He does not show up and I continue playing and say that I won. You will be looking at me like I’m crazy. What about Florida Obama was on the ticket and she won there too? Really? Florida broke the rules so Hillary and Obama didn’t campaign in Florida. That’s like The Lakers playing against Miami for the finals, the game is tide 100 to 100 in the 4th quarter with 10second to go and Miami do something that break the rules so the referee charge Miami with a technical stop the game but The Lakers continue playing and score and then say that they won the final. SUPERDELAGATES UNLESS YOU WANT THE REPUBLICAN AND MCCAIN TO WIN IN NOVEMBER HURRY PICK THE WINNER “OBAMA” MOST DELEGATES, MOST STATES, AND POPULAR VOTES BEFORE IS TOO LATE. The hardcore republicans is not going to change their mind they will vote for Gaddafi if he was running as a republican but the young people, independent and young republican will vote for OBAMA. What about white working class, I know Obama raised more than 100 MILLIONS! IN 4 MONTHS AND YOU KNOW ALL THAT MONEY DIDN’T COME FROM AFRICAN AMERICAN ONLY. COME ON LETS WIN TOGETHER BEFORE IS TOO LATE!!!!!!!!!!!!

]]> By: sarabeth http://www.1115.org/2008/05/20/karl-roves-new-math/comment-page-1/#comment-75809 sarabeth Tue, 20 May 2008 14:18:04 +0000 http://www.1115.org/2008/05/20/karl-roves-new-math/#comment-75809 What part of this do you really not get: when you declare before an election that the results won't count, the vote counts in that election are meaningless. Because so many people who would have voted if their vote was going to count stayed away. And it's hilarious, isn't it, how Hillary Clinton cheerfully agreed up front, with no reservations whatsoever, that the FL and MI results shouldn't count, and then suddenly got religion only when she found herself trailing? When she didn't think it would affect her chances of winning the nomination, it was perfectly okay for the nominee to be based on the votes of only 48 states. What Hillary Clinton and her campaign exemplifies at this point is the most pathetic kind of intellectual dishonesty. What part of this do you really not get: when you declare before an election that the results won’t count, the vote counts in that election are meaningless. Because so many people who would have voted if their vote was going to count stayed away.

And it’s hilarious, isn’t it, how Hillary Clinton cheerfully agreed up front, with no reservations whatsoever, that the FL and MI results shouldn’t count, and then suddenly got religion only when she found herself trailing?

When she didn’t think it would affect her chances of winning the nomination, it was perfectly okay for the nominee to be based on the votes of only 48 states.

What Hillary Clinton and her campaign exemplifies at this point is the most pathetic kind of intellectual dishonesty.

]]> By: Howard http://www.1115.org/2008/05/20/karl-roves-new-math/comment-page-1/#comment-75808 Howard Tue, 20 May 2008 14:02:42 +0000 http://www.1115.org/2008/05/20/karl-roves-new-math/#comment-75808 The math is not the point. The point is that we are going to allow a ridiculous election system, where a candidate can lead the entire United States, and the entire free world, with votes from only 48 states, meaningless caucus wins, and less popular votes than their rival. That's why, like millions of other democrats, if Obama gets the nomination, I'm voting for McCain! The math is not the point. The point is that we are going to allow a ridiculous election system, where a candidate can lead the entire United States, and the entire free world, with votes from only 48 states, meaningless caucus wins, and less popular votes than their rival. That’s why, like millions of other democrats, if Obama gets the nomination, I’m voting for McCain!

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