Comments on: Hillary Clinton: Winning At All Costs http://www.1115.org/2008/05/05/hillary-clinton-winning-at-all-costs/ west coast cap peelers Thu, 11 Mar 2010 15:14:05 -0700 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: matt http://www.1115.org/2008/05/05/hillary-clinton-winning-at-all-costs/comment-page-1/#comment-75751 matt Tue, 06 May 2008 15:18:12 +0000 http://www.1115.org/2008/05/05/hillary-clinton-winning-at-all-costs/#comment-75751 seamus has ignored all of my questions to him re: obama, so i imagine this will go unanswered as well. http://www.salon.com/opinion/feature/2008/05/06/gas_tax/ <blockquote>"I voted for it, and then six months later we took a look, and consumers had not benefited at all," Obama said. Having learned this hard economics lesson from his Illinois "mistake," Obama now argues that a federal tax holiday also will fail for the same reason -- the oil companies will take it all. But Obama is wrong. He did not learn this lesson. In fact, the only scientific study done on the pass-through of the tax holiday savings to Illinois consumers (and those in Indiana, as well, whose citizens enjoyed a similar holiday) found that it actually worked to a large extent. </blockquote> i'm not in favor of this gimmacky plan, but it appears obama is trying to take credit for a lesson not learned. seamus has ignored all of my questions to him re: obama, so i imagine this will go unanswered as well.

http://www.salon.com/opinion/feature/2008/05/06/gas_tax/

“I voted for it, and then six months later we took a look, and consumers had not benefited at all,” Obama said. Having learned this hard economics lesson from his Illinois “mistake,” Obama now argues that a federal tax holiday also will fail for the same reason — the oil companies will take it all.

But Obama is wrong. He did not learn this lesson. In fact, the only scientific study done on the pass-through of the tax holiday savings to Illinois consumers (and those in Indiana, as well, whose citizens enjoyed a similar holiday) found that it actually worked to a large extent.

i’m not in favor of this gimmacky plan, but it appears obama is trying to take credit for a lesson not learned.

]]> By: sarabeth http://www.1115.org/2008/05/05/hillary-clinton-winning-at-all-costs/comment-page-1/#comment-75750 sarabeth Tue, 06 May 2008 11:42:57 +0000 http://www.1115.org/2008/05/05/hillary-clinton-winning-at-all-costs/#comment-75750 Even if what Seamus pointed out wasn't true, the fact that Obama supported a gas tax holiday in Illinois somehow justifies or cancels out Hillary Clinton's craven dishonesty in selling her gas tax holiday plan? Even if what Seamus pointed out wasn’t true, the fact that Obama supported a gas tax holiday in Illinois somehow justifies or cancels out Hillary Clinton’s craven dishonesty in selling her gas tax holiday plan?

]]> By: seamus http://www.1115.org/2008/05/05/hillary-clinton-winning-at-all-costs/comment-page-1/#comment-75747 seamus Mon, 05 May 2008 15:29:52 +0000 http://www.1115.org/2008/05/05/hillary-clinton-winning-at-all-costs/#comment-75747 Greg, you're pretty wrong on this. Obama was on Tim Russert yesterday, and he said his primary reason for opposing the gas tax holiday was "we tried it in Illinois, I voted for it, and then oil companies just raised their prices to cover the tax benefit.... I learned from a mistake." Greg, you’re pretty wrong on this.

Obama was on Tim Russert yesterday, and he said his primary reason for opposing the gas tax holiday was “we tried it in Illinois, I voted for it, and then oil companies just raised their prices to cover the tax benefit…. I learned from a mistake.”

]]> By: Greg http://www.1115.org/2008/05/05/hillary-clinton-winning-at-all-costs/comment-page-1/#comment-75746 Greg Mon, 05 May 2008 15:25:39 +0000 http://www.1115.org/2008/05/05/hillary-clinton-winning-at-all-costs/#comment-75746 In other words, he was for the gas tax holiday before he was against it, or more accurately, before his opponent was for it. In other words, he was for the gas tax holiday before he was against it, or more accurately, before his opponent was for it.

]]> By: Greg http://www.1115.org/2008/05/05/hillary-clinton-winning-at-all-costs/comment-page-1/#comment-75745 Greg Mon, 05 May 2008 15:23:38 +0000 http://www.1115.org/2008/05/05/hillary-clinton-winning-at-all-costs/#comment-75745 Once again, you ignore the obvious irony in Obama's attacks against Hillary over this. He voted 3 times for gas tax holiday's as a state senator! http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080430/ap_on_el_pr/obama_gas_tax_fact_check Also, Kip Tew, the top advisor to Obama's Indiana campaign is an energy lobbyist. Tew said recently, "I'm not running away from the fact that I'm a lobbyist. I have a healthy client list, and I'm proud of it." http://www.courier-journal.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080425/NEWS0203/804250478 Once again, you ignore the obvious irony in Obama’s attacks against Hillary over this.

He voted 3 times for gas tax holiday’s as a state senator!

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080430/ap_on_el_pr/obama_gas_tax_fact_check

Also, Kip Tew, the top advisor to Obama’s Indiana campaign is an energy lobbyist. Tew said recently, “I’m not running away from the fact that I’m a lobbyist. I have a healthy client list, and I’m proud of it.”

http://www.courier-journal.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080425/NEWS0203/804250478

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