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		<title>By: sarabeth</title>
		<link>http://www.1115.org/2008/03/12/what-the-3/comment-page-1/#comment-75484</link>
		<dc:creator>sarabeth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Mar 2008 00:32:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the biggest argument against treating the original Florida vote as valid is that the voters were told the voting wouldn&#039;t count.  Many people stayed home.  It&#039;s an invalid election.  And no amount of repetition of talking points by Hillary and her supporters changes that.

Maybe the voters who stayed away because they were told the voting was irrelevant deserve a chance to have their vote counted too?

Having &quot;all the names were on the ballot in FL and campaigning (without personal appearances)&quot; means diddly squat under the circumstances.

&lt;blockquote&gt;you couldnâ€™t find the target if i stapled it to your forehead.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Yes, but you might try stapling it to his ass; he seems to live in there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the biggest argument against treating the original Florida vote as valid is that the voters were told the voting wouldn&#8217;t count.  Many people stayed home.  It&#8217;s an invalid election.  And no amount of repetition of talking points by Hillary and her supporters changes that.</p>
<p>Maybe the voters who stayed away because they were told the voting was irrelevant deserve a chance to have their vote counted too?</p>
<p>Having &#8220;all the names were on the ballot in FL and campaigning (without personal appearances)&#8221; means diddly squat under the circumstances.</p>
<blockquote><p>you couldnâ€™t find the target if i stapled it to your forehead.</p></blockquote>
<p>Yes, but you might try stapling it to his ass; he seems to live in there.</p>
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		<title>By: matt</title>
		<link>http://www.1115.org/2008/03/12/what-the-3/comment-page-1/#comment-75483</link>
		<dc:creator>matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Mar 2008 22:00:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>you couldn&#039;t find the target if i stapled it to your forehead.

your whole argument boils down to yeah, florida broke the rules, but let&#039;s let their vote stand, and michigan broke the rules, but they need to re-vote.  and you hang your hat (and yourself) on the thin reed of whose name appeared on which ballot.

it&#039;s not only inconsistent, it&#039;s self-serving and betrays complete ignorance at how the situation in both states played out.  they were both warned in plenty of time, and they both ignored the DNC.  they can&#039;t be treated differently because they put names on the ballot differently. 

as an official delegate, you should be ashamed of yourself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you couldn&#8217;t find the target if i stapled it to your forehead.</p>
<p>your whole argument boils down to yeah, florida broke the rules, but let&#8217;s let their vote stand, and michigan broke the rules, but they need to re-vote.  and you hang your hat (and yourself) on the thin reed of whose name appeared on which ballot.</p>
<p>it&#8217;s not only inconsistent, it&#8217;s self-serving and betrays complete ignorance at how the situation in both states played out.  they were both warned in plenty of time, and they both ignored the DNC.  they can&#8217;t be treated differently because they put names on the ballot differently. </p>
<p>as an official delegate, you should be ashamed of yourself.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave K</title>
		<link>http://www.1115.org/2008/03/12/what-the-3/comment-page-1/#comment-75482</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Mar 2008 21:45:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You said you &quot;admit my mistakes&quot; yet you haven&#039;t yet acknowledged the fact that comment 5 is right on target.  Is it on the front page?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You said you &#8220;admit my mistakes&#8221; yet you haven&#8217;t yet acknowledged the fact that comment 5 is right on target.  Is it on the front page?</p>
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		<title>By: Dave K</title>
		<link>http://www.1115.org/2008/03/12/what-the-3/comment-page-1/#comment-75480</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Mar 2008 21:14:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;a campaign without appearances is absurd.&quot;

So people are incapable of formulating an educated opinion without the candidates making a personal appearance in their state???...  That, my friend, is &quot;absurd&quot;.  As hard as it is for you, &quot;please&quot; try not to do that again (be absurd that is)...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;a campaign without appearances is absurd.&#8221;</p>
<p>So people are incapable of formulating an educated opinion without the candidates making a personal appearance in their state???&#8230;  That, my friend, is &#8220;absurd&#8221;.  As hard as it is for you, &#8220;please&#8221; try not to do that again (be absurd that is)&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: matt</title>
		<link>http://www.1115.org/2008/03/12/what-the-3/comment-page-1/#comment-75479</link>
		<dc:creator>matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Mar 2008 21:09:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;It sounds like you actually believe that DNC â€œrulesâ€ override the â€œcitizenâ€™s rightsâ€ to have their votes counted.&quot;

no, it doesn&#039;t.  i was crystal clear on this in my comment &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.1115.org/2008/03/10/the-battle-over-mi-and-fl/#comment-75443&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt; which you had to have read because you commented next.  don&#039;t do this again.

they need to re-vote, whether by mail or in person.  period.  

a campaign without appearances is absurd.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;It sounds like you actually believe that DNC â€œrulesâ€ override the â€œcitizenâ€™s rightsâ€ to have their votes counted.&#8221;</p>
<p>no, it doesn&#8217;t.  i was crystal clear on this in my comment <a href="http://www.1115.org/2008/03/10/the-battle-over-mi-and-fl/#comment-75443" rel="nofollow">here</a> which you had to have read because you commented next.  don&#8217;t do this again.</p>
<p>they need to re-vote, whether by mail or in person.  period.  </p>
<p>a campaign without appearances is absurd.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave K</title>
		<link>http://www.1115.org/2008/03/12/what-the-3/comment-page-1/#comment-75477</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Mar 2008 21:01:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LOL.  

1) &quot;4th or 5th time for this comment at least.&quot;

Apparently you believe that if a comment has been &quot;used&quot; it has no more meaning.  In fact it still has just as much bearing and relevance to a question &quot;whenever&quot; it&#039;s related to the subject (as in this case).

The question raised was to explain the posted statement.  I explained what that statement is basically saying.  It sounds like you actually believe that DNC &quot;rules&quot; override the &quot;citizen&#039;s rights&quot; to have their votes counted.  No, who cares about that right?  Not a very good stance to take for someone who aspires to know &quot;something&quot; about &quot;anything&quot; like yourself...  BTW, political &quot;rules&quot; are about as far from steadfast as you can get under â€œany&quot; circumstances.

2) â€œcampaigning (without personal appearances)â€ has no bearing.&quot;

If that were the case the Obama supporters wouldn&#039;t be trying to say that &quot;no campaigning was done&quot; in the state as one of their arguments.  They are twisting that fact because campaigning &quot;was in fact&quot; conducted...  It has bearing on this specific post because it is why the argument is being made for seating the delegates &quot;without a mail-in campaign or any redo of any kind.â€</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LOL.  </p>
<p>1) &#8220;4th or 5th time for this comment at least.&#8221;</p>
<p>Apparently you believe that if a comment has been &#8220;used&#8221; it has no more meaning.  In fact it still has just as much bearing and relevance to a question &#8220;whenever&#8221; it&#8217;s related to the subject (as in this case).</p>
<p>The question raised was to explain the posted statement.  I explained what that statement is basically saying.  It sounds like you actually believe that DNC &#8220;rules&#8221; override the &#8220;citizen&#8217;s rights&#8221; to have their votes counted.  No, who cares about that right?  Not a very good stance to take for someone who aspires to know &#8220;something&#8221; about &#8220;anything&#8221; like yourself&#8230;  BTW, political &#8220;rules&#8221; are about as far from steadfast as you can get under â€œany&#8221; circumstances.</p>
<p>2) â€œcampaigning (without personal appearances)â€ has no bearing.&#8221;</p>
<p>If that were the case the Obama supporters wouldn&#8217;t be trying to say that &#8220;no campaigning was done&#8221; in the state as one of their arguments.  They are twisting that fact because campaigning &#8220;was in fact&#8221; conducted&#8230;  It has bearing on this specific post because it is why the argument is being made for seating the delegates &#8220;without a mail-in campaign or any redo of any kind.â€</p>
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		<title>By: matt</title>
		<link>http://www.1115.org/2008/03/12/what-the-3/comment-page-1/#comment-75475</link>
		<dc:creator>matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Mar 2008 20:26:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>4th or 5th time for this comment at least.  and no matter how many times you repeat it, it&#039;s not valid.

the florida party ignored very clear DNC rules, as did MI.

&quot;campaigning (without personal appearances)&quot; has no bearing.

didn&#039;t you claim to be a delegate?  shouldn&#039;t you be smarter than this, or at least be able to make better arguments?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>4th or 5th time for this comment at least.  and no matter how many times you repeat it, it&#8217;s not valid.</p>
<p>the florida party ignored very clear DNC rules, as did MI.</p>
<p>&#8220;campaigning (without personal appearances)&#8221; has no bearing.</p>
<p>didn&#8217;t you claim to be a delegate?  shouldn&#8217;t you be smarter than this, or at least be able to make better arguments?</p>
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		<title>By: Dave K</title>
		<link>http://www.1115.org/2008/03/12/what-the-3/comment-page-1/#comment-75474</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Mar 2008 20:01:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Explanation:  Florida should be seated with the results &quot;as is&quot;.  No mention of MI was made because only one name was on the ballot.  However, all the names were on the ballot in FL and campaigning (without personal appearances) was conducted.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Explanation:  Florida should be seated with the results &#8220;as is&#8221;.  No mention of MI was made because only one name was on the ballot.  However, all the names were on the ballot in FL and campaigning (without personal appearances) was conducted.</p>
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