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	<title>Comments on: Retroactive Immunity: The Last Defense</title>
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		<title>By: matt</title>
		<link>http://www.1115.org/2007/10/18/retroactive-immunity-the-last-defense/comment-page-1/#comment-63415</link>
		<dc:creator>matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Oct 2007 04:37:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I was talking about Bushâ€™s critics in general, especially Democrats in office, so please put down your ban finger, hold off just yet.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

wtf does any of that have to do with discussing what we&#039;ve written here?  i&#039;ll tell you: nothing.

&lt;blockquote&gt;blaming them for their inability to get anything done.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

go fuck yourself.  their inability is his refusal.  i&#039;d ask you how many votes democrats have vs how many they need for impeachment, but that seems like a fools errand.  stop fucking jabbering and pay attention to the law and political realities.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I was talking about Bushâ€™s critics in general, especially Democrats in office, so please put down your ban finger, hold off just yet.</p></blockquote>
<p>wtf does any of that have to do with discussing what we&#8217;ve written here?  i&#8217;ll tell you: nothing.</p>
<blockquote><p>blaming them for their inability to get anything done.</p></blockquote>
<p>go fuck yourself.  their inability is his refusal.  i&#8217;d ask you how many votes democrats have vs how many they need for impeachment, but that seems like a fools errand.  stop fucking jabbering and pay attention to the law and political realities.</p>
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		<title>By: JimC</title>
		<link>http://www.1115.org/2007/10/18/retroactive-immunity-the-last-defense/comment-page-1/#comment-63413</link>
		<dc:creator>JimC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Oct 2007 04:19:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First of all, in reference to the &quot;ascribing others words&quot; I wasn&#039;t talking about you, I wasn&#039;t ascribing anything to you or 1115.org, I was talking about Bush&#039;s critics in general, especially Democrats in office, so please put down your ban finger, hold off just yet.

I&#039;m not excusing Bush for anything in fact there comes a point, if the man is breaking the law, when is he going to be impeached? I mean if he is breaking the law who is supposed to check him on that? Congress? Is he truly untouchable? Even if he is, I still would respect someone for trying to force the issue, even if they know they are going to fail.

This is not about putting blame on congress for Bush&#039;s acts but blaming them for their inability to get anything done. Whatever they are doing, it is not working....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First of all, in reference to the &#8220;ascribing others words&#8221; I wasn&#8217;t talking about you, I wasn&#8217;t ascribing anything to you or 1115.org, I was talking about Bush&#8217;s critics in general, especially Democrats in office, so please put down your ban finger, hold off just yet.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not excusing Bush for anything in fact there comes a point, if the man is breaking the law, when is he going to be impeached? I mean if he is breaking the law who is supposed to check him on that? Congress? Is he truly untouchable? Even if he is, I still would respect someone for trying to force the issue, even if they know they are going to fail.</p>
<p>This is not about putting blame on congress for Bush&#8217;s acts but blaming them for their inability to get anything done. Whatever they are doing, it is not working&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: matt</title>
		<link>http://www.1115.org/2007/10/18/retroactive-immunity-the-last-defense/comment-page-1/#comment-63386</link>
		<dc:creator>matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Oct 2007 02:57:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My personal belief is that this is a brand new version of &quot;his responsibility but not his fault.&quot;

it&#039;s pathetic that you can&#039;t do any better than this because i&#039;ll argue all day.  but you&#039;re not even worth it.  you aren&#039;t adding anything except pathetic word games and blame shifting.

have we not criticized democrats enough for you here?  on this same and other issues?  who &lt;em&gt;here&lt;/em&gt; is whining about &quot;the brainless, idiot, monkey outwits and out plays the cunning free thinkers?&quot;  cause you know, i&#039;d really hate to have to ban you for ascribing others&#039; words to us.  but i&#039;ll do it without another thought.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My personal belief is that this is a brand new version of &#8220;his responsibility but not his fault.&#8221;</p>
<p>it&#8217;s pathetic that you can&#8217;t do any better than this because i&#8217;ll argue all day.  but you&#8217;re not even worth it.  you aren&#8217;t adding anything except pathetic word games and blame shifting.</p>
<p>have we not criticized democrats enough for you here?  on this same and other issues?  who <em>here</em> is whining about &#8220;the brainless, idiot, monkey outwits and out plays the cunning free thinkers?&#8221;  cause you know, i&#8217;d really hate to have to ban you for ascribing others&#8217; words to us.  but i&#8217;ll do it without another thought.</p>
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		<title>By: JimC</title>
		<link>http://www.1115.org/2007/10/18/retroactive-immunity-the-last-defense/comment-page-1/#comment-63385</link>
		<dc:creator>JimC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Oct 2007 02:51:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If they have exhausted all of their avenues and the President still will not cooperate, then impeach him. Bush is not my hero but I am sick and tired of the whining that the brainless, idiot, monkey outwits and out plays the cunning free thinkers. My personal belief is that they, the leaders of congress, do not want to push it because it is better to play the victim....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If they have exhausted all of their avenues and the President still will not cooperate, then impeach him. Bush is not my hero but I am sick and tired of the whining that the brainless, idiot, monkey outwits and out plays the cunning free thinkers. My personal belief is that they, the leaders of congress, do not want to push it because it is better to play the victim&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: matt</title>
		<link>http://www.1115.org/2007/10/18/retroactive-immunity-the-last-defense/comment-page-1/#comment-63382</link>
		<dc:creator>matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Oct 2007 02:40:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Reid is the Senate Majority leader, and is supposed to be leading the Democrats in the Senate and in that role, he gets an 18%â€¦&lt;/blockquote&gt;

from people who can&#039;t even vote in elections in which he runs.

&lt;blockquote&gt;I have said it over and over, push, grill, ask questions&lt;/blockquote&gt;

and it is your considered opinion that they have not done all of this?  have you recently suffered a brain injury?  you&#039;re now just repeating the same nonsense over and over.

&lt;blockquote&gt;get clearance if necessary&lt;/blockquote&gt;

what does this mean?  clearance is granted by certain executive branch agencies, controlled by the president.  they can&#039;t just go to the store and pick some up.

they have subpoenaed documents and officials.  they have been ignored.  the legal system dictates that the justice department must enforce the subpoenas.  the justice department hasn&#039;t cooperated either.

so my question to you is &quot;what can they do that they have not already done?&quot;

and wouldn&#039;t it be easier for your hero, commander codpiece, to just follow the law and give them what they need to do oversight?

do you realize how absurd your argument is?  and on top of that, they&#039;ve done everything you suggest except &quot;get&quot; clearance.  and i&#039;d love to hear how you think they should go about that?

god you&#039;re a fucking moron.  you&#039;re just clueless as to how things work outside of the church and the rush limbaugh two minutes&#039; hate.  how do you even walk without falling down?  you should really find someone smarter than you (should be a piece of cake) to sub for you here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Reid is the Senate Majority leader, and is supposed to be leading the Democrats in the Senate and in that role, he gets an 18%â€¦</p></blockquote>
<p>from people who can&#8217;t even vote in elections in which he runs.</p>
<blockquote><p>I have said it over and over, push, grill, ask questions</p></blockquote>
<p>and it is your considered opinion that they have not done all of this?  have you recently suffered a brain injury?  you&#8217;re now just repeating the same nonsense over and over.</p>
<blockquote><p>get clearance if necessary</p></blockquote>
<p>what does this mean?  clearance is granted by certain executive branch agencies, controlled by the president.  they can&#8217;t just go to the store and pick some up.</p>
<p>they have subpoenaed documents and officials.  they have been ignored.  the legal system dictates that the justice department must enforce the subpoenas.  the justice department hasn&#8217;t cooperated either.</p>
<p>so my question to you is &#8220;what can they do that they have not already done?&#8221;</p>
<p>and wouldn&#8217;t it be easier for your hero, commander codpiece, to just follow the law and give them what they need to do oversight?</p>
<p>do you realize how absurd your argument is?  and on top of that, they&#8217;ve done everything you suggest except &#8220;get&#8221; clearance.  and i&#8217;d love to hear how you think they should go about that?</p>
<p>god you&#8217;re a fucking moron.  you&#8217;re just clueless as to how things work outside of the church and the rush limbaugh two minutes&#8217; hate.  how do you even walk without falling down?  you should really find someone smarter than you (should be a piece of cake) to sub for you here.</p>
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		<title>By: sarabeth</title>
		<link>http://www.1115.org/2007/10/18/retroactive-immunity-the-last-defense/comment-page-1/#comment-63381</link>
		<dc:creator>sarabeth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Oct 2007 02:36:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear me, no one who already has clearance has pushed, grilled, or asked questions, have they?  Or issued subpoenas (or maybe that doesn&#039;t count as a legal action?).

As for taking anything to this Supreme court, yeah, that&#039;ll work where nothing else has.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear me, no one who already has clearance has pushed, grilled, or asked questions, have they?  Or issued subpoenas (or maybe that doesn&#8217;t count as a legal action?).</p>
<p>As for taking anything to this Supreme court, yeah, that&#8217;ll work where nothing else has.</p>
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		<title>By: JimC</title>
		<link>http://www.1115.org/2007/10/18/retroactive-immunity-the-last-defense/comment-page-1/#comment-63375</link>
		<dc:creator>JimC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Oct 2007 02:24:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;hey retard: â€œreidâ€™s constituents in nevada give him 32%, still 5 points higher than bushâ€™s constituents give him.â€&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Oh so among his constituents he has a slightly higher rating, how about his friends &amp; family? Reid is the Senate Majority leader, and is supposed to be leading the Democrats in the Senate and in that role, he gets an 18%...

What would I have them do? I have said it over and over, push, grill, ask questions, get clearance if necessary, and if after that you still do not get any answers, then pursue legal action, take it to the Supreme Court, anything except whine about not having what they need or want. Its called checks and balances, except this impotent congress can&#039;t check the Executive branch because they are witless and spineless or deliberately not pursuing just to be dramatic and score points for the next election cycle. I want our congress to get serious about something. They let Bush get away with everything you complain about yet its not their fault??? They deserve their 11% rating....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>hey retard: â€œreidâ€™s constituents in nevada give him 32%, still 5 points higher than bushâ€™s constituents give him.â€</p></blockquote>
<p>Oh so among his constituents he has a slightly higher rating, how about his friends &amp; family? Reid is the Senate Majority leader, and is supposed to be leading the Democrats in the Senate and in that role, he gets an 18%&#8230;</p>
<p>What would I have them do? I have said it over and over, push, grill, ask questions, get clearance if necessary, and if after that you still do not get any answers, then pursue legal action, take it to the Supreme Court, anything except whine about not having what they need or want. Its called checks and balances, except this impotent congress can&#8217;t check the Executive branch because they are witless and spineless or deliberately not pursuing just to be dramatic and score points for the next election cycle. I want our congress to get serious about something. They let Bush get away with everything you complain about yet its not their fault??? They deserve their 11% rating&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: sarabeth</title>
		<link>http://www.1115.org/2007/10/18/retroactive-immunity-the-last-defense/comment-page-1/#comment-63369</link>
		<dc:creator>sarabeth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Oct 2007 02:08:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I very much fear that&#039;s the best (if not only) answer JimC is capable of giving.

I don&#039;t think he understands he&#039;s being asked to explain &lt;em&gt;how&lt;/em&gt; they&#039;re supposed to find out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I very much fear that&#8217;s the best (if not only) answer JimC is capable of giving.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think he understands he&#8217;s being asked to explain <em>how</em> they&#8217;re supposed to find out.</p>
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		<title>By: matt</title>
		<link>http://www.1115.org/2007/10/18/retroactive-immunity-the-last-defense/comment-page-1/#comment-63341</link>
		<dc:creator>matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Oct 2007 00:41:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hey retard: &quot;reidâ€™s constituents in nevada give him 32%, still 5 points higher than bushâ€™s constituents give him.&quot;

what part sent what passes for your brain into an infinite loop?

&lt;blockquote&gt;I expect them to do their job.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

this is supposed to be an answer?

do not post another comment until you answer the question.  what would you have them do?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hey retard: &#8220;reidâ€™s constituents in nevada give him 32%, still 5 points higher than bushâ€™s constituents give him.&#8221;</p>
<p>what part sent what passes for your brain into an infinite loop?</p>
<blockquote><p>I expect them to do their job.</p></blockquote>
<p>this is supposed to be an answer?</p>
<p>do not post another comment until you answer the question.  what would you have them do?</p>
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		<title>By: JimC</title>
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		<dc:creator>JimC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Oct 2007 00:29:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, I thought you meant no sitting member of congress &lt;i&gt;now&lt;/i&gt;. My mistake because clearly had you meant no sitting congressman now, today has a lower rate than Bush then you would have been &lt;i&gt;wrong&lt;/i&gt; but we all know you are never wrong, so clearly you meant past ratings or future ratings and not current ratings. Of course I&#039;m being facetious. You would never let me get away with a response like you just gave me....

As for your non-optional question, I expect them to do their job. How difficult is that? I don&#039;t care if they get scuttled at every turn by Bush Administration. I&#039;m not talking just about Democrats either. This post clearly highlights Arlen Specter who said that he didn&#039;t know what went on that needs retro-immunity, well Arlen, go find out, do your job....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, I thought you meant no sitting member of congress <i>now</i>. My mistake because clearly had you meant no sitting congressman now, today has a lower rate than Bush then you would have been <i>wrong</i> but we all know you are never wrong, so clearly you meant past ratings or future ratings and not current ratings. Of course I&#8217;m being facetious. You would never let me get away with a response like you just gave me&#8230;.</p>
<p>As for your non-optional question, I expect them to do their job. How difficult is that? I don&#8217;t care if they get scuttled at every turn by Bush Administration. I&#8217;m not talking just about Democrats either. This post clearly highlights Arlen Specter who said that he didn&#8217;t know what went on that needs retro-immunity, well Arlen, go find out, do your job&#8230;.</p>
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