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		<title>By: JimC</title>
		<link>http://www.1115.org/2007/09/21/the-height-of-lying/comment-page-1/#comment-60553</link>
		<dc:creator>JimC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Sep 2007 02:53:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;It is the height of childish petulance to expect that you will always get what you ask for.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

In that case, I will have to assume sac&#039;s response was the correct assessment. 

Sac, do you think Orin Hatch was calling Bush on a lie? Meaning, that Orin Hatch&#039;s own word&#039;s reveal, that Bush was given bad advice and that &quot;untrue&quot; does not equal a lie, is it accurate to characterize Orin Hatch&#039;s response in such a way? 

This is why I believed that Sarabeth was in fact slamming Orin Hatch for not going so far as to calling it a lie (which is fine), but simply untrue and given &quot;bad advice&quot;. What do you think, sac?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>It is the height of childish petulance to expect that you will always get what you ask for.</p></blockquote>
<p>In that case, I will have to assume sac&#8217;s response was the correct assessment. </p>
<p>Sac, do you think Orin Hatch was calling Bush on a lie? Meaning, that Orin Hatch&#8217;s own word&#8217;s reveal, that Bush was given bad advice and that &#8220;untrue&#8221; does not equal a lie, is it accurate to characterize Orin Hatch&#8217;s response in such a way? </p>
<p>This is why I believed that Sarabeth was in fact slamming Orin Hatch for not going so far as to calling it a lie (which is fine), but simply untrue and given &#8220;bad advice&#8221;. What do you think, sac?</p>
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		<title>By: sarabeth</title>
		<link>http://www.1115.org/2007/09/21/the-height-of-lying/comment-page-1/#comment-60552</link>
		<dc:creator>sarabeth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Sep 2007 02:03:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is the height of childish petulance to expect that you will always get what you ask for.  

I declined perfectly politely.  If that drives you to frustration and impoliteness, all I can say is your behavior doesn&#039;t come close to matching your oft-expressed self-image.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is the height of childish petulance to expect that you will always get what you ask for.  </p>
<p>I declined perfectly politely.  If that drives you to frustration and impoliteness, all I can say is your behavior doesn&#8217;t come close to matching your oft-expressed self-image.</p>
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		<title>By: JimC</title>
		<link>http://www.1115.org/2007/09/21/the-height-of-lying/comment-page-1/#comment-60551</link>
		<dc:creator>JimC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Sep 2007 01:15:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;what was uncivil about 2 or 4 or 6?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Just very condescending and dismissive when I&#039;m trying to find a way to communicate with you without provoking you to wrath.

&lt;blockquote&gt;therefore SB is saying that the lie was so egregious that even someone like Hatch canâ€™t stand silently by.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Sarabeth is sac&#039;s assessment correct?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>what was uncivil about 2 or 4 or 6?</p></blockquote>
<p>Just very condescending and dismissive when I&#8217;m trying to find a way to communicate with you without provoking you to wrath.</p>
<blockquote><p>therefore SB is saying that the lie was so egregious that even someone like Hatch canâ€™t stand silently by.</p></blockquote>
<p>Sarabeth is sac&#8217;s assessment correct?</p>
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		<title>By: sarabeth</title>
		<link>http://www.1115.org/2007/09/21/the-height-of-lying/comment-page-1/#comment-60546</link>
		<dc:creator>sarabeth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Sep 2007 22:16:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>what was uncivil about 2 or 4 or 6?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>what was uncivil about 2 or 4 or 6?</p>
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		<title>By: sarabeth</title>
		<link>http://www.1115.org/2007/09/21/the-height-of-lying/comment-page-1/#comment-60545</link>
		<dc:creator>sarabeth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Sep 2007 22:14:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;This is what I find wrong in America right now&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Jesus!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>This is what I find wrong in America right now</p></blockquote>
<p>Jesus!</p>
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		<title>By: sac</title>
		<link>http://www.1115.org/2007/09/21/the-height-of-lying/comment-page-1/#comment-60544</link>
		<dc:creator>sac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Sep 2007 22:13:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jim, Hatch said Bush&#039;s statement was untrue, therefore SB is saying that the lie was so egregious that even someone like Hatch can&#039;t stand silently by.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jim, Hatch said Bush&#8217;s statement was untrue, therefore SB is saying that the lie was so egregious that even someone like Hatch can&#8217;t stand silently by.</p>
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		<title>By: JimC</title>
		<link>http://www.1115.org/2007/09/21/the-height-of-lying/comment-page-1/#comment-60543</link>
		<dc:creator>JimC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Sep 2007 21:16:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;And thatâ€™s consistent with your â€œIâ€™ll try to be nicer in the futureâ€ how?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

That&#039;s as nice as I could possibly be and still express my frustration over a simply yes or no acknowledgment.

This is what I find wrong in America right now, no one wants to talk or be civil to the other side. I&#039;m trying, even in this hostile environment (for me at least), I&#039;m trying....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>And thatâ€™s consistent with your â€œIâ€™ll try to be nicer in the futureâ€ how?</p></blockquote>
<p>That&#8217;s as nice as I could possibly be and still express my frustration over a simply yes or no acknowledgment.</p>
<p>This is what I find wrong in America right now, no one wants to talk or be civil to the other side. I&#8217;m trying, even in this hostile environment (for me at least), I&#8217;m trying&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: sarabeth</title>
		<link>http://www.1115.org/2007/09/21/the-height-of-lying/comment-page-1/#comment-60542</link>
		<dc:creator>sarabeth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Sep 2007 20:52:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You apparently didn&#039;t notice, but I &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.1115.org/2007/09/19/can-security-contractors-be-charged-with-war-crimes/#comment-60482&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;resigned&lt;/a&gt; not only from the business of conducting painful protracted arguments with you over the meaning of things, but also from tutoring you in your ongoing &quot;reading comprehension&quot; project.

&lt;blockquote&gt;For crying out loud, ...
[...]
Thanks much, youâ€™re a peach.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

And that&#039;s consistent with your &quot;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.1115.org/2007/09/17/depends-on-the-definition-of-sovereignty/#comment-60440&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Iâ€™ll try to be nicer in the future&lt;/a&gt;&quot; how?

In any case, let me repeat:
&lt;blockquote&gt;You go ahead and believe whatever you want to, whether itâ€™s the facts of an incident, or the meaning of what I wrote, or the existence of logical flaws in what I wrote. I really donâ€™t care if you get it wrong. I do care about the enormous amount of time I end up spending correcting your misconceptions. And Iâ€™m not prepared to do it any more.&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You apparently didn&#8217;t notice, but I <a href="http://www.1115.org/2007/09/19/can-security-contractors-be-charged-with-war-crimes/#comment-60482" rel="nofollow">resigned</a> not only from the business of conducting painful protracted arguments with you over the meaning of things, but also from tutoring you in your ongoing &#8220;reading comprehension&#8221; project.</p>
<blockquote><p>For crying out loud, &#8230;<br />
[...]<br />
Thanks much, youâ€™re a peach.</p></blockquote>
<p>And that&#8217;s consistent with your &#8220;<a href="http://www.1115.org/2007/09/17/depends-on-the-definition-of-sovereignty/#comment-60440" rel="nofollow">Iâ€™ll try to be nicer in the future</a>&#8221; how?</p>
<p>In any case, let me repeat:</p>
<blockquote><p>You go ahead and believe whatever you want to, whether itâ€™s the facts of an incident, or the meaning of what I wrote, or the existence of logical flaws in what I wrote. I really donâ€™t care if you get it wrong. I do care about the enormous amount of time I end up spending correcting your misconceptions. And Iâ€™m not prepared to do it any more.</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: JimC</title>
		<link>http://www.1115.org/2007/09/21/the-height-of-lying/comment-page-1/#comment-60540</link>
		<dc:creator>JimC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Sep 2007 20:34:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;You are condemned to seeing the world through your own eyes&lt;/blockquote&gt;

For crying out loud, I was trying to avoid a painful protracted argument on the meaning of words and just cut to the chase and ask for clarification and what do I get? Nothing. It is as if you want 58 comments of arguing over the meaning of &quot;is&quot;...

Fine then, I&#039;ll just assume you were slamming Orin Hatch and if anyone else is reading and wasn&#039;t sure of that then maybe I helped them make up their mind (even if it is to go opposite of me). 

Thanks much, you&#039;re a peach.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>You are condemned to seeing the world through your own eyes</p></blockquote>
<p>For crying out loud, I was trying to avoid a painful protracted argument on the meaning of words and just cut to the chase and ask for clarification and what do I get? Nothing. It is as if you want 58 comments of arguing over the meaning of &#8220;is&#8221;&#8230;</p>
<p>Fine then, I&#8217;ll just assume you were slamming Orin Hatch and if anyone else is reading and wasn&#8217;t sure of that then maybe I helped them make up their mind (even if it is to go opposite of me). </p>
<p>Thanks much, you&#8217;re a peach.</p>
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		<title>By: sarabeth</title>
		<link>http://www.1115.org/2007/09/21/the-height-of-lying/comment-page-1/#comment-60538</link>
		<dc:creator>sarabeth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Sep 2007 19:17:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You are condemned to seeing the world through your own eyes. That&#039;s what makes everything so confusing to you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are condemned to seeing the world through your own eyes. That&#8217;s what makes everything so confusing to you.</p>
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