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		<title>By: JimC</title>
		<link>http://www.1115.org/2007/09/17/depends-on-the-definition-of-sovereignty/comment-page-2/#comment-60440</link>
		<dc:creator>JimC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Sep 2007 23:47:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Your previous rhetoric doesnâ€™t seem to match the tone youâ€™re embracing now.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

You&#039;re right, I let my emotions carry me away. I&#039;ll try to be nicer in the future...I&#039;m especially embarrassed by #10, &quot;frak&quot;, not only is it a substitution for language I have long since forsaken, but it is also from a Sci-Fi TV show....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Your previous rhetoric doesnâ€™t seem to match the tone youâ€™re embracing now.</p></blockquote>
<p>You&#8217;re right, I let my emotions carry me away. I&#8217;ll try to be nicer in the future&#8230;I&#8217;m especially embarrassed by #10, &#8220;frak&#8221;, not only is it a substitution for language I have long since forsaken, but it is also from a Sci-Fi TV show&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: sarabeth</title>
		<link>http://www.1115.org/2007/09/17/depends-on-the-definition-of-sovereignty/comment-page-2/#comment-60438</link>
		<dc:creator>sarabeth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Sep 2007 23:11:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You are welcome to point out what you want.  How I respond will obviously depend on both tone and content.

Your previous rhetoric doesn&#039;t seem to match the tone you&#039;re embracing now.  I refer you to:

9: before anyone gets as a giddy as a schoolgirl about the potential for another Bush Administration snafu

10: only those who believe such things would consider that I was calling such things â€œself defenseâ€

16: What the frak are you smoking today?

22: I donâ€™t know what to say, except my statement is perfectly clear and makes absolute sense and I am absolutely stunned at the length youâ€™re going to stick to a â€œIâ€™m never wrongâ€ policy.

If you taunt me and insult me, then don&#039;t come complaining about my hobnailed boots later.

And I will be personally obliged if you will drop the  &quot;could it be that I just am more forgiving&quot; line of attack.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are welcome to point out what you want.  How I respond will obviously depend on both tone and content.</p>
<p>Your previous rhetoric doesn&#8217;t seem to match the tone you&#8217;re embracing now.  I refer you to:</p>
<p>9: before anyone gets as a giddy as a schoolgirl about the potential for another Bush Administration snafu</p>
<p>10: only those who believe such things would consider that I was calling such things â€œself defenseâ€</p>
<p>16: What the frak are you smoking today?</p>
<p>22: I donâ€™t know what to say, except my statement is perfectly clear and makes absolute sense and I am absolutely stunned at the length youâ€™re going to stick to a â€œIâ€™m never wrongâ€ policy.</p>
<p>If you taunt me and insult me, then don&#8217;t come complaining about my hobnailed boots later.</p>
<p>And I will be personally obliged if you will drop the  &#8220;could it be that I just am more forgiving&#8221; line of attack.</p>
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		<title>By: JimC</title>
		<link>http://www.1115.org/2007/09/17/depends-on-the-definition-of-sovereignty/comment-page-2/#comment-60437</link>
		<dc:creator>JimC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Sep 2007 21:56:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Iâ€™m not sure what else Iâ€™m supposed to do to catch your attention, or to try and reach you.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Well, if you can suffer me, perhaps bold italics next time you try one of these exercises. 

&lt;blockquote&gt;Logical meaning&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Add logical meaning to the list as well. Basically, if I find examples of such things, can I point them out without retribution and if I turn out to be wrong, how about only a light whipping instead of a brutal scourging?  I want to do better, to make myself strive to the level that it takes around here to be considered *more than just barely literate*.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Iâ€™m not sure what else Iâ€™m supposed to do to catch your attention, or to try and reach you.</p></blockquote>
<p>Well, if you can suffer me, perhaps bold italics next time you try one of these exercises. </p>
<blockquote><p>Logical meaning</p></blockquote>
<p>Add logical meaning to the list as well. Basically, if I find examples of such things, can I point them out without retribution and if I turn out to be wrong, how about only a light whipping instead of a brutal scourging?  I want to do better, to make myself strive to the level that it takes around here to be considered *more than just barely literate*.</p>
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		<title>By: sarabeth</title>
		<link>http://www.1115.org/2007/09/17/depends-on-the-definition-of-sovereignty/comment-page-2/#comment-60436</link>
		<dc:creator>sarabeth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Sep 2007 21:26:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Also, I am going to kindly ask that, if and that is a big *if* I find any grammatical problems with any of your comments, that I hope that I could point them out without incurring any wrath. Just as an exercise in reciprocity.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

don&#039;t be deliberately dense.  this wasn&#039;t about grammar.  it was about the logical meaning of a loose statement by you.  &lt;strong&gt;Logical meaning&lt;/strong&gt;.  Not &lt;strong&gt;grammar&lt;/strong&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Also, I am going to kindly ask that, if and that is a big *if* I find any grammatical problems with any of your comments, that I hope that I could point them out without incurring any wrath. Just as an exercise in reciprocity.</p></blockquote>
<p>don&#8217;t be deliberately dense.  this wasn&#8217;t about grammar.  it was about the logical meaning of a loose statement by you.  <strong>Logical meaning</strong>.  Not <strong>grammar</strong>.</p>
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		<title>By: sarabeth</title>
		<link>http://www.1115.org/2007/09/17/depends-on-the-definition-of-sovereignty/comment-page-2/#comment-60435</link>
		<dc:creator>sarabeth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Sep 2007 21:23:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I wasnâ€™t paying attention close enough to the fact that you changed a key word &lt;/blockquote&gt;

It didn&#039;t need &lt;em&gt;close&lt;/em&gt; attention.  I put those words in italics in 8.  I put them in italics again in 18, when I spelled out the whole thing in little baby steps.

I&#039;m not sure what else I&#039;m supposed to do to catch your attention, or to try and reach you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I wasnâ€™t paying attention close enough to the fact that you changed a key word </p></blockquote>
<p>It didn&#8217;t need <em>close</em> attention.  I put those words in italics in 8.  I put them in italics again in 18, when I spelled out the whole thing in little baby steps.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure what else I&#8217;m supposed to do to catch your attention, or to try and reach you.</p>
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		<title>By: JimC</title>
		<link>http://www.1115.org/2007/09/17/depends-on-the-definition-of-sovereignty/comment-page-2/#comment-60434</link>
		<dc:creator>JimC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Sep 2007 21:22:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;but in the end, you are still borderline illiterate.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

lol, ok...I don&#039;t know howcome I got this far wit out ya. I&#039;m gonna quit my job program&#039;n these here computational contraptions and go polish rocks from now on, thanks for the revelation....

Illiterate by your standards, perhaps, but most people don&#039;t live by bullet proof blog comments as a standard. I am guilty of using poor conversational language (as stated many a times before, I&#039;m not an English major nor write much English, C# yes, English, not so much) in my commenting, I will try to do better by gollie.

Also, I am going to kindly ask that, if and that is a big *if* I find any grammatical problems with any of your comments, that I hope that I could point them out without incurring any wrath. Just as an exercise in reciprocity. 

One last thought, and no disrespect intended but could it be that I just am more forgiving and naively believe the same will be returned? Even hoping beyond hope, disregarding of past experiences here, that by chance, hearts will be softened?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>but in the end, you are still borderline illiterate.</p></blockquote>
<p>lol, ok&#8230;I don&#8217;t know howcome I got this far wit out ya. I&#8217;m gonna quit my job program&#8217;n these here computational contraptions and go polish rocks from now on, thanks for the revelation&#8230;.</p>
<p>Illiterate by your standards, perhaps, but most people don&#8217;t live by bullet proof blog comments as a standard. I am guilty of using poor conversational language (as stated many a times before, I&#8217;m not an English major nor write much English, C# yes, English, not so much) in my commenting, I will try to do better by gollie.</p>
<p>Also, I am going to kindly ask that, if and that is a big *if* I find any grammatical problems with any of your comments, that I hope that I could point them out without incurring any wrath. Just as an exercise in reciprocity. </p>
<p>One last thought, and no disrespect intended but could it be that I just am more forgiving and naively believe the same will be returned? Even hoping beyond hope, disregarding of past experiences here, that by chance, hearts will be softened?</p>
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		<title>By: matt</title>
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		<dc:creator>matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Sep 2007 21:05:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;and then Matt acknowledged that he initially thought he knew what I meant until you tried to â€œclarifyâ€ during and after which I clearly read right over that subtle change.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

don&#039;t play games.  the point remains that you can&#039;t accurately express yourself.  that i was fooled is a problem for me, but in the end, you are still borderline illiterate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>and then Matt acknowledged that he initially thought he knew what I meant until you tried to â€œclarifyâ€ during and after which I clearly read right over that subtle change.</p></blockquote>
<p>don&#8217;t play games.  the point remains that you can&#8217;t accurately express yourself.  that i was fooled is a problem for me, but in the end, you are still borderline illiterate.</p>
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		<title>By: JimC</title>
		<link>http://www.1115.org/2007/09/17/depends-on-the-definition-of-sovereignty/comment-page-2/#comment-60432</link>
		<dc:creator>JimC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Sep 2007 20:40:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;It really doesnâ€™t appear from the exchange that you were trying to understand what I said, or even listening. You were too busy dismissing it out of hand.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

You&#039;re correct. I wasn&#039;t paying attention close enough to the fact that you changed a key word which logically is correct but you acknowledged that you (#30), and then Matt acknowledged that he initially thought he knew what I meant until you tried to &quot;clarify&quot; &lt;em&gt;during &lt;/em&gt;and &lt;em&gt;after&lt;/em&gt; which I clearly read right over that subtle change. 

But I don&#039;t know what I&#039;m hoping for so I will just have to try harder and read closer to every jot and every tittle.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>It really doesnâ€™t appear from the exchange that you were trying to understand what I said, or even listening. You were too busy dismissing it out of hand.</p></blockquote>
<p>You&#8217;re correct. I wasn&#8217;t paying attention close enough to the fact that you changed a key word which logically is correct but you acknowledged that you (#30), and then Matt acknowledged that he initially thought he knew what I meant until you tried to &#8220;clarify&#8221; <em>during </em>and <em>after</em> which I clearly read right over that subtle change. </p>
<p>But I don&#8217;t know what I&#8217;m hoping for so I will just have to try harder and read closer to every jot and every tittle.</p>
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		<title>By: sarabeth</title>
		<link>http://www.1115.org/2007/09/17/depends-on-the-definition-of-sovereignty/comment-page-2/#comment-60431</link>
		<dc:creator>sarabeth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Sep 2007 20:26:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Means if you knew what I meant, why frustrate the situation with the during  and before bit. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

I can only refer you to Matt&#039;s 40, and maybe 47 (but not with any real hope that you&#039;ll get it now, if you didn&#039;t get it before).

I wasn&#039;t trying to frustrate the situation, I was only trying to point out that what you said meant something very different from what you thought it did.

It really doesn&#039;t appear from the exchange that you were trying to understand what I said, or even listening.  You were too busy dismissing it out of hand.

Any frustration you felt, you created for yourself, I&#039;m afraid.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Means if you knew what I meant, why frustrate the situation with the during  and before bit. </p></blockquote>
<p>I can only refer you to Matt&#8217;s 40, and maybe 47 (but not with any real hope that you&#8217;ll get it now, if you didn&#8217;t get it before).</p>
<p>I wasn&#8217;t trying to frustrate the situation, I was only trying to point out that what you said meant something very different from what you thought it did.</p>
<p>It really doesn&#8217;t appear from the exchange that you were trying to understand what I said, or even listening.  You were too busy dismissing it out of hand.</p>
<p>Any frustration you felt, you created for yourself, I&#8217;m afraid.</p>
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		<title>By: JimC</title>
		<link>http://www.1115.org/2007/09/17/depends-on-the-definition-of-sovereignty/comment-page-1/#comment-60430</link>
		<dc:creator>JimC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Sep 2007 20:11:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;here we go again: What on earth does â€œI could ask for a little more â€¦ discernmentâ€ mean?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Means if you knew what I meant, why frustrate the situation with the &lt;em&gt;during &lt;/em&gt; and &lt;em&gt;before &lt;/em&gt;bit. And if that truly was an issue that needed to be clearer, there are much better ways to achieve that. I didn&#039;t pick up on the &lt;em&gt;during &lt;/em&gt;and &lt;em&gt;before &lt;/em&gt;bit from 8 and I think after my first response to that in 10 clearly showed I didn&#039;t pickup on the word play, and comment 11 only furthered my confusion as to what you were actually critiquing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>here we go again: What on earth does â€œI could ask for a little more â€¦ discernmentâ€ mean?</p></blockquote>
<p>Means if you knew what I meant, why frustrate the situation with the <em>during </em> and <em>before </em>bit. And if that truly was an issue that needed to be clearer, there are much better ways to achieve that. I didn&#8217;t pick up on the <em>during </em>and <em>before </em>bit from 8 and I think after my first response to that in 10 clearly showed I didn&#8217;t pickup on the word play, and comment 11 only furthered my confusion as to what you were actually critiquing.</p>
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