The Libby Probation: Another Problem?

By now we’ve all heard about how Judge Reggie Walton has pointed out that you can only be placed on probation after having served a prison sentence.

Legally, probation is “supervised release”. You have to go to prison in order to be released. Federal law does not provide for probation without prison time. Somehow this managed to escape the rocket scientists and brain surgeons who advised Bush on the commutation, the ones who persuaded him that commutation could be sold as leaving Libby facing “pretty significant punishment”, since he still faced “a felony conviction, a $250,000 fine, two years probation, and basically has lost the way he has built a living in his entire life.”

How about another question? Suppose a way is found for Libby to be placed on probation. After all, here’s what we’re being told:

Strictly interpreted, the statute authorizing probation indicates that supervised release “should occur only after the defendant has already served a term of imprisonment,” U.S. District Judge Reggie Walton wrote.

So maybe there’s a way around that issue.

But what happens to I. Lewis Libby if he violates the terms of his probation? Normally, a parolee goes back into the system to finish serving the time he had left to serve when he was paroled. Libby has no time left to serve, to start with.

So is this yet another example of that brilliant high Bushism, benchmarks without consequences? He’s on probation, but if he violates the terms of his probation, then all that happens is nothing at all?

Pray, tell us again, George W. Bush, how I. Lewis Libby still faces “pretty significant punishment”?

Comments

  1. Michael says:

    Federal law does not provide for probation without prison time.

    Can you explain to me then how Sandy Berger is on probation??

  2. sarabeth says:

    No, not really.

    This statement did not come from me, it came from Judge Reggie Walton. It has been widely reported, in the MSM as well as blogs. As far as I know, no lawyers have taken issue with it.

    I’m not sure if the answer is that Berger was sentenced to 100 hours of community service. That there has to be some sentence, either a prison sentence or community service.

    Or maybe the answer is that the same problem existed then, but no one happened to raise it.

    In any case, lawyers for both sides will respond to this issue on Monday.

    Also, my post is not about Judge Walton’s statement (which is there only as background material). My post is really about the question I’m raising, namely what would happen to Libby if he were to violate his probation.

  3. Michael says:

    I’m not sure if the answer is that Berger was sentenced to 100 hours of community service. That there has to be some sentence, either a prison sentence or community service.

    Libby has 400 hours of community service, which was not commuted.

    This statement did not come from me, it came from Judge Reggie Walton.

    Is it possible that Reggie Walton is just a partisan hack with an axe to grind, and doesn’t know or care about the law? The fact exists, Berger, like Libby, never served a day in prison, has community service, and is on probation.

  4. matt says:

    sarabeth, re: #4, i’ll take an apology at your convenience.

  5. sarabeth says:

    Is it possible that Reggie Walton is just a partisan hack with an axe to grind, and doesn’t know or care about the law?

    That must be why so many right wing lawyers lined up to explain how Judge Walton had it all ass-backwards, isn’t it?

    And obviously you didn’t even bother to see what #3 pointed you to.

  6. sarabeth says:

    matt: apology, and an all-hail bow!

    (note to others: matt claimed this guy was a dim-witted rightie troll, I claimed he was a seeker for truth asking an honest and very valid question)

  7. Michael says:

    So you are saying that your first sentence should really be

    By now we’ve all heard about how Judge Reggie Walton has pointed out that you can only be placed on probation supervised release after having served a prison sentence.

    Apology accepted.

  8. matt says:

    don’t you mean “partisan hack Reggie Walton?”

  9. Michael says:

    So, that hearing was three days ago, how did that turn out? It turns out Libby will be on probation, despite what partisan hack Reggie Walton said.

  10. sarabeth says:

    up yours, buddy. i never apologized to you. (there was nothing to apologize for.)

    i can’t imagine you have a sense of humor. so you must really be as stupid as you have been sounding.

  11. Michael says:

    So now you are saying that you didn’t mean supervised release, you really did mean probation? Which is it? Berger is on probation, it can be done. You have a stronger argument if you go with the supervised release, which contradicts the original story.

  12. sarabeth says:

    just what we needed around here. another troll with reading comprehension issues.

  13. matt says:

    how about you go away now.

    there was ambiguity, it was cleared up to the best of our ability to decipher retarded legalese prompted by an ongoing criminal conspiracy.

    i’m still not sure what the fuck your point is outside of trying to equate brerger with libby. we get it. move on.

  14. Michael says:

    Did someone get their feelings hurt? Or is this a liberal debate technique I am not familiar with?

  15. matt says:

    just tired of dealing with morons and people who can’t read/write. so if there’s nothing else…

  16. sarabeth says:

    there’s always one last thing: the grim determination to get in the last word, no matter how sophomoric or asinine.

  17. Michael says:

    While others can never admit they were wrong, despite overwhelming evidence. :)

  18. matt says:

    and we’re finished.