Comments on: The Day After, In Israel http://www.1115.org/2006/08/15/the-day-after-in-israel/ Thu, 09 Feb 2012 21:49:02 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3 By: Winux http://www.1115.org/2006/08/15/the-day-after-in-israel/comment-page-1/#comment-17171 Winux Tue, 15 Aug 2006 21:55:16 +0000 http://www.1115.org/2006/08/15/the-day-after-in-israel/#comment-17171 A good source of a Muslim point of view on everything... http://eteraz.wordpress.com/ A good source of a Muslim point of view on everything…

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]]> By: sarabeth http://www.1115.org/2006/08/15/the-day-after-in-israel/comment-page-1/#comment-17170 sarabeth Tue, 15 Aug 2006 19:05:08 +0000 http://www.1115.org/2006/08/15/the-day-after-in-israel/#comment-17170 <blockquote>I didn’t know which day you were speaking of because you didn’t quote before.</blockquote> Funny. Because the first line of my post reads: <blockquote>That victory that Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert and President Bush declared <strong>yesterday</strong></blockquote> (And my advice is not to use phrases like "cannon fodder" if you don't know what they mean or how they are to be used.)

I didn’t know which day you were speaking of because you didn’t quote before.

Funny. Because the first line of my post reads:

That victory that Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert and President Bush declared yesterday

(And my advice is not to use phrases like “cannon fodder” if you don’t know what they mean or how they are to be used.)

]]> By: Winux http://www.1115.org/2006/08/15/the-day-after-in-israel/comment-page-1/#comment-17169 Winux Tue, 15 Aug 2006 17:59:33 +0000 http://www.1115.org/2006/08/15/the-day-after-in-israel/#comment-17169 I didn't know which day you were speaking of because you didn't quote before. Over the weekend or last week sometime the UN passed a resolution against Hezbollah, and the media then played the line "Hezbollah suffered a defeat" and people took it to Isreal bombing them, and not the UN resolution. It's a defeat for both sides, and a win for both sides, but I think now the world will be watching the whole Hezbollah-Isreal-Iran-Syria-Lebanon situation. Iran already stated they can blow up Tel-Aviv if Isreal attacks them or Syria, insinuating that if Isreal goes any further in advancing against Hezbollah, an all out war will begin. However, I think this is just cannon fodder, since he only stated it after the truce and Iran has little balls and little money to support a war.... I didn’t know which day you were speaking of because you didn’t quote before. Over the weekend or last week sometime the UN passed a resolution against Hezbollah, and the media then played the line “Hezbollah suffered a defeat” and people took it to Isreal bombing them, and not the UN resolution.

It’s a defeat for both sides, and a win for both sides, but I think now the world will be watching the whole Hezbollah-Isreal-Iran-Syria-Lebanon situation.

Iran already stated they can blow up Tel-Aviv if Isreal attacks them or Syria, insinuating that if Isreal goes any further in advancing against Hezbollah, an all out war will begin. However, I think this is just cannon fodder, since he only stated it after the truce and Iran has little balls and little money to support a war….

]]> By: sarabeth http://www.1115.org/2006/08/15/the-day-after-in-israel/comment-page-1/#comment-17168 sarabeth Tue, 15 Aug 2006 17:13:12 +0000 http://www.1115.org/2006/08/15/the-day-after-in-israel/#comment-17168 <blockquote>I think the victory that Bush was referring to was the UN resolution that addressed Syria and Iran supporting Hezbollah and that repurcussions would occur….</blockquote> What’s to think? He said what he said. And “Bush says Israel defeated Hezbollah” is how every media outlet reported it. <a href="http://www.forbes.com/entrepreneurs/feeds/ap/2006/08/14/ap2949166.html" rel="nofollow"><em>AP</em></a>: <blockquote><strong>President Bush said Monday that Israel defeated Hezbollah's guerrillas </strong>in the monthlong Mideast war and that the Islamic militants were to blame for the deaths of hundreds of Lebanese civilians. […] "Hezbollah attacked Israel. Hezbollah started the crisis, and <strong>Hezbollah suffered a defeat in this crisis</strong>," the president said</blockquote> <a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/08/14/AR2006081400094.html?nav=rss_email/components" rel="nofollow"><em>WaPo</em></a>: <blockquote>Speaking to reporters at the State Department, Bush brushed aside suggestions that the United States was slow to respond to the crisis in Lebanon or that <strong>the war had resulted in anything less than a clear defeat for Hezbollah</strong>.</blockquote> He ain't talking about no U.N. resolutions here.

I think the victory that Bush was referring to was the UN resolution that addressed Syria and Iran supporting Hezbollah and that repurcussions would occur….

What’s to think? He said what he said. And “Bush says Israel defeated Hezbollah” is how every media outlet reported it.

AP:

President Bush said Monday that Israel defeated Hezbollah’s guerrillas in the monthlong Mideast war and that the Islamic militants were to blame for the deaths of hundreds of Lebanese civilians.
[…]
“Hezbollah attacked Israel. Hezbollah started the crisis, and Hezbollah suffered a defeat in this crisis,” the president said

WaPo:

Speaking to reporters at the State Department, Bush brushed aside suggestions that the United States was slow to respond to the crisis in Lebanon or that the war had resulted in anything less than a clear defeat for Hezbollah.

He ain’t talking about no U.N. resolutions here.

]]> By: sac http://www.1115.org/2006/08/15/the-day-after-in-israel/comment-page-1/#comment-17167 sac Tue, 15 Aug 2006 16:14:37 +0000 http://www.1115.org/2006/08/15/the-day-after-in-israel/#comment-17167 They drove Hezbollah away from the border, a UN peacekeeping force is being put into place, it seems the Lebanese military is actually becoming involved in attempting to keep a lid on Hezbollah (we'll see how much internal support that one gets). In that sense, Israel achieved its goal. However, is was much more difficult than anticipated, and their methods have received much international scrutiny. On Hezbollah's side, they weren't completely destroyed, which, for a guerilla army going against a national force, is victory. Also, they very nearly achieved the impossible, which was to bring together Sunni and Shia support for their cause. Almost, being the key word, although Hezbollah has gained major brownie points with much of the Arab world. So, Israel gets its short-term goal, Hezbollah achieves less tangible though possibly more long-lasting gains. It's a win-win/lose-lose proposition. In other words, business as usual in the Middle East. They drove Hezbollah away from the border, a UN peacekeeping force is being put into place, it seems the Lebanese military is actually becoming involved in attempting to keep a lid on Hezbollah (we’ll see how much internal support that one gets). In that sense, Israel achieved its goal. However, is was much more difficult than anticipated, and their methods have received much international scrutiny.

On Hezbollah’s side, they weren’t completely destroyed, which, for a guerilla army going against a national force, is victory. Also, they very nearly achieved the impossible, which was to bring together Sunni and Shia support for their cause. Almost, being the key word, although Hezbollah has gained major brownie points with much of the Arab world.

So, Israel gets its short-term goal, Hezbollah achieves less tangible though possibly more long-lasting gains. It’s a win-win/lose-lose proposition. In other words, business as usual in the Middle East.

]]> By: Winux http://www.1115.org/2006/08/15/the-day-after-in-israel/comment-page-1/#comment-17165 Winux Tue, 15 Aug 2006 15:46:30 +0000 http://www.1115.org/2006/08/15/the-day-after-in-israel/#comment-17165 I think the victory that Bush was referring to was the UN resolution that addressed Syria and Iran supporting Hezbollah and that repurcussions would occur.... 2) If my troops were hungry and I couldn't get supplies fast enough up to them, let them find what they need. It happened in every major war out there. If they don't eat, they starve and get shot and die. I'd rather look out for my own troops. 3) I think Israel is grasping to for an a political answer to its people.... What laws of war do you refer to, anyways? I would like to read this law book.... I think the victory that Bush was referring to was the UN resolution that addressed Syria and Iran supporting Hezbollah and that repurcussions would occur….

2) If my troops were hungry and I couldn’t get supplies fast enough up to them, let them find what they need. It happened in every major war out there. If they don’t eat, they starve and get shot and die. I’d rather look out for my own troops.

3) I think Israel is grasping to for an a political answer to its people….

What laws of war do you refer to, anyways? I would like to read this law book….

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