putting words in my mouth will never get you anywhere. I’m not shy about saying whatever I want to say. anything else you try to put in my mouth, I’m just going to spit it out.

Oh what a masterful game you play :-) I had to laugh in amazement how what you pulled out of my last comment was that I put words in your mouth, {laughing shaking my head}…

I was hoping for something nice we could say to each other….so here goes…good nite, have pleasant dreams, and a wonderful tomorrrow…and I do mean that…

and very few of your assumptions seem to have much relationship to what I consider to be real or true.

So you are saying there is a chance that you care about me! :-)

I’m just so exhausted from this exchange I feel like this is really a sad situation when we cannot come to any middle ground on some things and I’m talking about myself as well.

I really feel like we’ve come to a point in this nation where americans are pitted against each other so vehemently that we’ve lost something precious. The epic struggle between right and left seems to be a shadow of a civil war itself, makes me feel like so much energy is being expended trying to tear down the other side, we’re going to self destruct…..something has got to happen to unite us, what that could be, I don’t know…

still a free country.

and very few of your assumptions seem to have much relationship to what I consider to be real or true.

bottom line: I wouldn’t presume to tell you what to assume.

(also: assuming something doesn’t make it true)

i pity you.

but i wouldn’t presume to:
a) pray for you
b) try to change you
c) try to inspire you to change yourself

Can I assume then you do not care about me whatsoever?

but i wouldn’t presume to:
a) pray for you
b) try to change you
c) try to inspire you to change yourself

this says very clearly that JimC thinks gaiety is being marketed to our kids in first grade (much as cigarettes are a few years later).

I do think that’s paranoid bullshit.

I happen to have children that age and it was a case here where objectionable material was being taught to our children, paranoid, no, BS? In your opinion maybe, and it is not the marketing like cigarettes that is offensive, it is the presumption of the schools to take it upon themselves as professors of morality, that’s the offensive part. I will teach my children to not hate homosexuals but at the same time teach them it is not what we consider moral under our beliefs, the schools need to stick with concrete things and leave morality to the parents.

it could force me into a situation where my child grows up thinking being gay is cool, hip, and the famous people do it, so why not be gay

this says very clearly that JimC thinks gaiety is being marketed to our kids in first grade (much as cigarettes are a few years later).

I do think that’s paranoid bullshit.