Tolerance is the New Intolerance

It’s got to be rough being a conservative Christian. After all, there are attacks coming from all sides: Wars on Christmas. Wars on Easter. Unmarried people who don’t practice abstinence. Naughty words on television. Schools that dare to teach evolution. Gay people walking about in polite society without scarlet letters stitched over their sinful hearts.

Their ranks may include important politicians leading all the way up to the President, their faith may be practiced to some degree by a huge majority of Americans, but why should that stop some Christian conservatives from feeling persecuted?

(I expect an answer for that once Christian jokes overtake Jew jokes as a source of good old-fashioned American humor. As in, probably never.)

The latest news item from the Christian battlefronts:

Ruth Malhotra went to court last month for the right to be intolerant.

Malhotra says her Christian faith compels her to speak out against homosexuality. But the Georgia Institute of Technology, where she’s a senior, bans speech that puts down others because of their sexual orientation.

Malhotra sees that as an unacceptable infringement on her right to religious expression. So she’s demanding that Georgia Tech revoke its tolerance policy.

With her lawsuit, the 22-year-old student joins a growing campaign to force public schools, state colleges and private workplaces to eliminate policies protecting gays and lesbians from harassment. The religious right aims to overturn a broad range of common tolerance programs: diversity training that promotes acceptance of gays and lesbians, speech codes that ban harsh words against homosexuality, anti-discrimination policies that require college clubs to open their membership to all.

For people like Malhotra, they feel marginalized if they are denied the right to marginalize others, and they are mad as hell about the situation. They may never talk to an actual gay person, and they may never come closer to gay culture than a re-run of Will and Grace, but their great struggle is to retain the ability to target homosexuals both professionally and socially. And if you think that’s a little over-dramatic, read the following:

The Rev. Rick Scarborough, a leading evangelical, frames the movement as the civil rights struggle of the 21st century. “Christians,” he said, “are going to have to take a stand for the right to be Christian.”

Now, I’m not Christian and—as such—I may not be privy to their great hardships, but I know for certain that: 1) They haven’t been denied the right to vote because of their religion; 2) They don’t have to use special “Christian Only” bathrooms and water fountains; 3) They’ve never had firehoses sprayed on them as they walked to church; and 4) They can sit on the bus in any damn spot they choose. Instead, people like Scarborough are the bus driver, the segregationist, the politician blocking the doors of a school so blacks can’t enter. In this twisted interpretation of the Civil Rights movement, they play the other side—it’s their God-given right to deny equal treatment for gays, target them with impunity and call them “faggot” whenever they feel like.

Certainly, not all Christians feel the same way as Malhotra and Scarborough and their ilk. But it’s the evangelicals who reliably have their hand on the megaphone and have the means to push through the lawsuits, and they will not be denied the right to put homosexuals in their proper place. Cast off those shackles of opression! Viva freedom! We shall overcome!

(PREVIOUS: The Opposite of Tolerance, by Matt)

Comments

  1. JimC says:

    Nullus. (I’m still not sure what that means.)

    lol, I don’t either but it seems to be proper etiquette ..

  2. sarabeth says:

    a while back Sarabeth said something to effect that “JimC would probably claim to have gay friends”

    no, she didn’t. you can’t just keep making up stuff, and expect to be taken seriously.

  3. sarabeth says:

    lol, I don’t either but it seems to be proper etiquette ..

    like many other things in life, if you wanted to know what it means, it really wouldn’t be all that hard to figure it out.

  4. JimC says:

    no, she didn’t. you can’t just keep making up stuff, and expect to be taken seriously.

    I thought it was in the comments to the Plurism post but then again I think that post and the original comments got trashed so I cannot prove it, but I remember you jokingly saying something to that effect but since I cannot prove I guess I can’t prove it. Furthermore, the search engine here, dopes it search comments or just posts?

  5. JimC says:

    Furthermore, the search engine here, dopes it search comments or just posts?

    That was supposed to be a question if the search engine searches comments as well as posts…

  6. sarabeth says:

    If you read the excerpts, it is clear that these “instructors” were teaching to 1st graders or somewhere around there that homosexuality is healthy and something to be celebrated. In fact here in our school district there was a book and a PBS show being used in our schools that subvertly showed “two mommies” and “two daddies” and by doing so they are indoctrinating our children, making it seem fun and exciting. Furthermore, it puts the values and teachings of the parents at odds with the child’s educators who frankly have their captive attention even more than parents often do…this is what I mean about forcing upon us…

    i can see how this must be even more aggravating than when they teach evolution.

    but how, pray, is this forcing a gay lifestyle on you?

  7. sarabeth says:

    just posts, unfortunately (unless things changed in the last upgrade)

  8. JimC says:

    i can see how this must be even more aggravating than when they teach evolution.

    Amen.

    but how, pray, is this forcing a gay lifestyle on you?

    Well, it forces it upon my child correct? Granted this is forcing me to be gay but it could force me into a situation where my child grows up thinking being gay is cool, hip, and the famous people do it, so why not be gay, therefore, my child, the person I love is now ensared into this lifestyle, wouldn’t this affect me and my family greatly? This is what I am talking about, no it won’t force me to put a rainbow sticker on my truck but it would subvert the values in our home….and do you not think teaching 1st graders about homosexuality is a bit extreme?

  9. JimC says:

    Granted this is forcing

    I just need to give up, this is supposed to read “isn’t forcing me”

  10. sarabeth says:

    my child grows up thinking being gay is cool, hip, and the famous people do it

    go on now! they were using famous people in the classroom videos? famous people doing it?

    And I totally missed the part earlier that gaiety was being portrayed as cool and hip by these unspeakable classroom violators. Now that I think of it, so many people have confessed they embraced the gay lifestyle only because they were looking for something cool and hip, and there aren’t that many choices, are there, once you rule out smoking?

  11. JimC says:

    go on now! they were using famous people in the classroom videos? famous people doing it?

    And I totally missed the part earlier that gaiety was being portrayed as cool and hip by these unspeakable classroom violators. Now that I think of it, so many people have confessed they embraced the gay lifestyle only because they were looking for something cool and hip, and there aren’t that many choices, are there, once you rule out smoking?

    Now you’re just mocking me… :-)

    But still, do you think it is appropriate for teachers to push this on 1st graders?

  12. sac says:

    What I think Jim is saying is that this program teaches that a gay lifestyle is as equally valid and moral as a straight one. Now, I happen to agree with that, but many people don’t. In light of this, the question is, should this be taught to 1st graders? I don’t think so, personally. This isn’t like evolution, which is a scientific theory being taught in a science class. This is the vague world of “morality” and judgment, which in my opinion, should be taught at home.

    I have kids, and like I said, I’d have no problem with them being exposed to such a program in 1st grade, because I happen to agree with the tenets of said program.

  13. sarabeth says:

    But still, do you think it is appropriate for teachers to push this on 1st graders?

    Gods forbid that we teach our children tolerance. Or let others do so, when we ourselves are blinded by religious intolerance into practicing hate-speech towards others in the guise of morality.

    all they seem to be doing is introducing first-graders to the concept of gay families in first grade terms (there are some families with 2 mommies and there are some families with 2 daddies), and teaching the kids that there is nothing wrong with such families, they are not evil, and there is no reason to hate them.

    yes, I think it’s appropriate. i think it may even be christian, but what would I know?

  14. matt says:

    What I think Jim is saying is that this program teaches that a gay lifestyle is as equally valid and moral as a straight one. Now, I happen to agree with that, but many people don’t.

    you know who else agrees? the constitution and the declaration of independence.

    this curriculum is a red herring. it’s not enough for religionists to say “i’m offended, stop doing that,” they have to revert to “what about the children?” because everyone gets offended by something.

    whether or not jim and his buddies are successful in remaking this country in the image of the bible is beside the point. gay rights are ascendant, and more families are non-traditional. teaching kids that it’s ok is vital so that we don’t have 3rd grade bigots running around taunting kids who happen to have a different family situation than most others. when i was a kid, it was mostly about divorce, now it’s about having 2 mommies. deal.

  15. sarabeth says:

    lest anyone succeed in creating confusion about what JimC was saying, here’s what he said:

    it could force me into a situation where my child grows up thinking being gay is cool, hip, and the famous people do it, so why not be gay

    this says very clearly that JimC thinks gaiety is being marketed to our kids in first grade (much as cigarettes are a few years later).

    I do think that’s paranoid bullshit.

  16. sarabeth says:

    Offensive paranoid bullshit.

  17. sac says:

    I think Jim is exactly right. Gay people are cool, hip and in many instances, famous. Don’t let the kids find out!

  18. JimC says:

    this says very clearly that JimC thinks gaiety is being marketed to our kids in first grade (much as cigarettes are a few years later).

    I do think that’s paranoid bullshit.

    I happen to have children that age and it was a case here where objectionable material was being taught to our children, paranoid, no, BS? In your opinion maybe, and it is not the marketing like cigarettes that is offensive, it is the presumption of the schools to take it upon themselves as professors of morality, that’s the offensive part. I will teach my children to not hate homosexuals but at the same time teach them it is not what we consider moral under our beliefs, the schools need to stick with concrete things and leave morality to the parents.

  19. sarabeth says:

    i pity you.

    but i wouldn’t presume to:
    a) pray for you
    b) try to change you
    c) try to inspire you to change yourself

  20. JimC says:

    i pity you.

    but i wouldn’t presume to:
    a) pray for you
    b) try to change you
    c) try to inspire you to change yourself

    Can I assume then you do not care about me whatsoever?

  21. sarabeth says:

    you can assume whatever you like.

    still a free country.

    and very few of your assumptions seem to have much relationship to what I consider to be real or true.

    bottom line: I wouldn’t presume to tell you what to assume.

    (also: assuming something doesn’t make it true)

  22. JimC says:

    and very few of your assumptions seem to have much relationship to what I consider to be real or true.

    So you are saying there is a chance that you care about me! :-)

    I’m just so exhausted from this exchange I feel like this is really a sad situation when we cannot come to any middle ground on some things and I’m talking about myself as well.

    I really feel like we’ve come to a point in this nation where americans are pitted against each other so vehemently that we’ve lost something precious. The epic struggle between right and left seems to be a shadow of a civil war itself, makes me feel like so much energy is being expended trying to tear down the other side, we’re going to self destruct…..something has got to happen to unite us, what that could be, I don’t know…

  23. sarabeth says:

    putting words in my mouth will never get you anywhere. I’m not shy about saying whatever I want to say. anything else you try to put in my mouth, I’m just going to spit it out.

  24. JimC says:

    putting words in my mouth will never get you anywhere. I’m not shy about saying whatever I want to say. anything else you try to put in my mouth, I’m just going to spit it out.

    Oh what a masterful game you play :-) I had to laugh in amazement how what you pulled out of my last comment was that I put words in your mouth, {laughing shaking my head}…

    I was hoping for something nice we could say to each other….so here goes…good nite, have pleasant dreams, and a wonderful tomorrrow…and I do mean that…