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counterintelligence agent and interrogator Joe Narvarro was on Hardball with Chris Matthews last week:

MATTHEWS: …Torture, does it ever work?

NAVARRO: You know, I suspect that it may, but in reality, you know, the only thing that torture guarantees is pain. It never guarantees the truth. It’s a technique that we in the FBI have never used, we don’t need. Professional interviewers have never subscribed to it.

The American Association of Marine Interviewers don’t subscribe to it. In fact, most of the military interviewers that I’ve worked with don’t subscribe to it. And so we are not sure where the need for this is coming from.

MATTHEWS: If it doesn’t work, why does the mob use it? Don’t they use it to find out who ratted whom out? They used to do it in the movies.

NAVARRO: They use it because they are psychopaths, Chris.