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	<title>Comments on: Defaulting on the Trust (Fund)</title>
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		<title>By: forager</title>
		<link>http://www.1115.org/2005/02/14/defaulting-on-the-trust-fund/comment-page-1/#comment-2793</link>
		<dc:creator>forager</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Feb 2005 21:53:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot; wonâ€™t even speculate on the economic consequences of floating this type of doubt of US credit-worthiness in a globalized economy&quot; -Nick in Beantown 

The consquences won&#039;t be realized until next election... then when things are tough,  blame will fall on whoever is in office at the time (or an attempt to anyway).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8221; wonâ€™t even speculate on the economic consequences of floating this type of doubt of US credit-worthiness in a globalized economy&#8221; -Nick in Beantown </p>
<p>The consquences won&#8217;t be realized until next election&#8230; then when things are tough,  blame will fall on whoever is in office at the time (or an attempt to anyway).</p>
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		<title>By: matt</title>
		<link>http://www.1115.org/2005/02/14/defaulting-on-the-trust-fund/comment-page-1/#comment-2792</link>
		<dc:creator>matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Feb 2005 20:27:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I also think that this plan for private social security accounts is just the Bushies way of creating a new stock market boom&quot;

look for more on this later this week.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I also think that this plan for private social security accounts is just the Bushies way of creating a new stock market boom&#8221;</p>
<p>look for more on this later this week.</p>
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		<title>By: maggie</title>
		<link>http://www.1115.org/2005/02/14/defaulting-on-the-trust-fund/comment-page-1/#comment-2791</link>
		<dc:creator>maggie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Feb 2005 20:22:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with everything you&#039;ve written.  I&#039;ve been railing against the regressive payroll tax for years.  

I also think that this plan for private social security accounts is just the Bushies way of creating a new stock market boom, like 401K&#039;s did in the 90&#039;s by pumping in trillions of $$ from the worker bees, who are the ones that lose it all when the boom ends since they know nothing about the market.  The wealthy are already invested in the market &amp; realize the gains when it booms because they bought in when prices were low.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with everything you&#8217;ve written.  I&#8217;ve been railing against the regressive payroll tax for years.  </p>
<p>I also think that this plan for private social security accounts is just the Bushies way of creating a new stock market boom, like 401K&#8217;s did in the 90&#8242;s by pumping in trillions of $$ from the worker bees, who are the ones that lose it all when the boom ends since they know nothing about the market.  The wealthy are already invested in the market &#038; realize the gains when it booms because they bought in when prices were low.</p>
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		<title>By: matt</title>
		<link>http://www.1115.org/2005/02/14/defaulting-on-the-trust-fund/comment-page-1/#comment-2790</link>
		<dc:creator>matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Feb 2005 16:17:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, I included that when I wrote a &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.1115.org/index.php?p=896&quot;target=_blank&gt;letter&lt;/a&gt; to Senator Allard.  Constitutional experts don&#039;t seem to be able to reach a consensus on whether it is a violation.  Even if it is impeachable, not much is going to happen with this Congress.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, I included that when I wrote a <a href="http://www.1115.org/index.php?p=896"target=_blank>letter</a> to Senator Allard.  Constitutional experts don&#8217;t seem to be able to reach a consensus on whether it is a violation.  Even if it is impeachable, not much is going to happen with this Congress.</p>
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		<title>By: Nick in Beantown</title>
		<link>http://www.1115.org/2005/02/14/defaulting-on-the-trust-fund/comment-page-1/#comment-2789</link>
		<dc:creator>Nick in Beantown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Feb 2005 16:06:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amendment 14, Section 4 of the United States Constitution:

&quot;The validity of the public debt of the United States, authorized by law, including debts incurred for payment of pensions and bounties for services in suppressing insurrection or rebellion, shall not be questioned. &quot;

When Bush claims the following:

â€œThe money â€“ payroll taxes going into the Social Security are spent. Theyâ€™re spent on benefits and theyâ€™re spent on government programs. There is no trust.â€

he is talking about US Treasury Bonds - the public debt.  These bonds are the very bonds that comprise the Social Security &quot;trust fund&quot;.

This is an impeachable offense.  Not that the litany of such offenses by the administration have gotten any attention, thus far.  I won&#039;t even speculate on the economic consequences of floating this type of doubt of US credit-worthiness in a globalized economy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amendment 14, Section 4 of the United States Constitution:</p>
<p>&#8220;The validity of the public debt of the United States, authorized by law, including debts incurred for payment of pensions and bounties for services in suppressing insurrection or rebellion, shall not be questioned. &#8221;</p>
<p>When Bush claims the following:</p>
<p>â€œThe money â€“ payroll taxes going into the Social Security are spent. Theyâ€™re spent on benefits and theyâ€™re spent on government programs. There is no trust.â€</p>
<p>he is talking about US Treasury Bonds &#8211; the public debt.  These bonds are the very bonds that comprise the Social Security &#8220;trust fund&#8221;.</p>
<p>This is an impeachable offense.  Not that the litany of such offenses by the administration have gotten any attention, thus far.  I won&#8217;t even speculate on the economic consequences of floating this type of doubt of US credit-worthiness in a globalized economy.</p>
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