You Are Hurting Coolfer’s Feelings
by matt at 7:41 am on May 5th, 2004 in EntertainmentCoolfer’s feelings are hurt because no one commented or trackbacked to his defense of the recording industry’s use of minimum advertised prices.
He singles us out in particular even though his point is only tangentially related to what Jason said about the iTunes Music Store last week. Until I hear an integrated defense of recording industry practices and how they expect to make up for 5+ years of ostrich-like head-in-the-sand behavior, I say…yawn.
gijyun wrote:
hold on, i’ll go inflate the soccem’ boppers.
Posted 05 May 2004 at 1:16 pm ¶
Coolfer wrote:
What? No name calling this time? I guess I didn’t say the right things. Damn. Back to the drawing board.
Yeah, my feelings were pretty damn hurt. I’m weeping over here.
I’m kidding. But I made that comment because I get little to no interest about commentary on the music industry, even though that’s what I prefer the emphasize on my site.
Yawn to my post? Did you read it? It should have enlightened you, since most of it was probably presented to you for the first time. I trust you understood it. It wasn’t over your head, was it? And I’m not saying you have to fall in love with the music industry in order to agree with me. You’re taking sides here in a very predictable fashion, I understand that, so you would probably rather jump in front of a bus that admit to agreeing with me on any point I made
That post was related to one small bit of your recent post, and I believe I presented a clear case on how many people, including 1115.org, have got MAP policies all wrong. It goes to show the problems with getting all your information from journalists who don’t get the facts straight. (And from FTC commissioners who make idiotic promises.)
As for five years on the industry’s head being in the sand, yeah, the industry has been slow to incorporate new technology. Part of it is very undestandable. How does legitimate business compete with free? It’s a problem. Then you’ve got all the competing interests bickering and fighting. Publishers, lawyers, artists, management, labels….it’s a clusterfuck. But you’re looking for some kind of grand unification theory that just doesn’t exist. I’ll post on music industry myths (and other items) on topic at a time. I’m not going to tie it all together…that would take a 400-page book, and I simply don’t have the time for it.
Posted 06 May 2004 at 7:44 am ¶
matt wrote:
>What? No name calling this time? I guess I didn’t say the right >things. Damn. Back to the drawing board.
Wasn’t me that did the name calling chief.
>But I made that comment because I get little to no interest >about commentary on the music industry, even though that’s >what I prefer the emphasize on my site.
I think you just have the wrong side of the coin. SItes that bash the industry get tons of traffic and plenty of comments from what I hear.
>Yawn to my post? Did you read it? It should have enlightened >you, since most of it was probably presented to you for the >first time.
You act like I don’t read agency rulings, congressional bills and news accounts of such.
It was very enlightening of you to cite things like sales and pice drops without offering proof. It would be like me saying that the majority of people like something and not offering a link to the polling data.
>You’re taking sides here in a very predictable fashion, I >understand that, so you would probably rather jump in front of >a bus that admit to agreeing with me on any point I made
I’m taking sides against anti-capitalist actions. I don’t care if Wal-Mart uses music as a loss leader. I don’t shop there anyway. I buy my music at Amoeba. They are an independent. I’m sure I overpay once in a while, but fuck it. I don’t buy RIAA music anyway, so I just don’t care.
>It goes to show the problems with getting all your information >from journalists who don’t get the facts straight. (And from >FTC commissioners who make idiotic promises.)
I don’t speculate on where you get your news from, kindly reciprocate. If journalists are getting it wrong (some are) it is because the industry has a massive PR problem that they are ill handling.
The industry they have chosen has become a clusterfuck. It is on them to solve it. They can do that any way they like, but they have to realize that some of their practices will cause a backlash that will cost them more money than it saves them. Pretending that everything should stand still until they decide is naive and silly.
On a side note, out of curiosity I went back and found the entry where I told you to stick to what you know. Maybe you want to go back and read the entry and the comments. You might learn something.
Posted 06 May 2004 at 8:15 am ¶
Coolfer wrote:
Thanks for the rebuttals, Matt. I’m well aware you didn’t call me a jerkoff in previous comments. That was directed at gijyun, who is in Colorado and does not pay $20 with tax for a CD priced $17.98. Can’t round up, dude. Round down, to $19.
I won’t speculate on where you get your news, good point, and that comment was targeted at the public in general. They’re getting a lot of bad facts on the music industry. Every time I read an article at MacWorld, for example, I can’t believe the bias and the lack of objectivity. People need to get off Jobs’ jock. It has nothing to do with the industry’s bad PR, which was never terribly good to begin with. The RIAA is always on the PR offensive, but I don’t think the media or the public ever takes its comments seriously. Their opinions are made up well in advance, which shows a serious lack of critical thinking.
I might learn something if I went back to those comments? I disagree. I went back. Go ahead, try to use hindsight as a weapon.
Posted 06 May 2004 at 10:32 am ¶
matt wrote:
>Every time I read an article at MacWorld, for example, I can’t >believe the bias and the lack of objectivity. People need to get >off Jobs’ jock.
Am I missing why we are skipping back and forth between MAPs and Apple? I think the point you may be missing is that Apple is doing more (and more productive things) to bail out the industry than the industry is doing for themselves.
> It has nothing to do with the industry’s bad PR, which was >never terribly good to begin with. The RIAA is always on the PR >offensive, but I don’t think the media or the public ever takes >its comments seriously. Their opinions are made up well in >advance, which shows a serious lack of critical thinking.
There is a market for ideas as well as the market for products. the recording industry is failing themselves (and their consumers) in the market for ideas. Of course people lack critical thinking. We write about that every day here. How can 49% of people still say they approve of the President? But that is a fact of life, and we try to chip away at it at every opportunity both here and in the real world. The industry has a similar burden, and I repeat, it is their burden.
>I might learn something if I went back to those comments? I >disagree. I went back. Go ahead, try to use hindsight as a >weapon
Hindsight? More like foresight. That was written 5 months ago. I was right, you were not.
Posted 06 May 2004 at 10:49 am ¶
Coolfer wrote:
Whether you were right or not will unfold as time passes. You were more right than me, I’ll give you that. At least I’m man enough to say it. Now, if you want to keep on commenting about the music industry (from a viewpoint other than that of concerned consumer), go right ahead. In the future I hope you show insight, unbiased critical thinking and objectivity. If you don’t do those things, I’m going to call you out. Your masthead says “Uncommon Common Sense.” Let’s see something other than the party line.
Posted 06 May 2004 at 11:55 am ¶
matt wrote:
Fair enough. While we are making objectivity requests, do you feel like rethinking your substitution of Apple with “Tech Cult”?
Posted 06 May 2004 at 12:01 pm ¶